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CAD703X
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
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How do I not understand? You dismissed switching services by saying you can’t access your library of music through Spotify. Through the desktop app you can very clearly upload local files to be streamed through Spotify.



maybe you should read the link you posted

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Use the app to play music files stored on your device, which we call local files.


you carry your 50,000 song library around on your phone which is the ONLY device you ever connect to spotify with?


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Chimlim
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
Seeing this makes me glad I invested into Apple Music ecosystem over the past few years.


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Seeing this makes me glad I invested into Apple Music ecosystem over the past few years.


i've tried scrolling through my collection of uploaded music in YT Music in both the sonos desktop controller app and the android app and in both cases I can't scroll past "A" in either album view or artist view.

Awesome. So my personal collection is UNAVAILABLE to play to my home's smart speaker system no matter how i attempt to access it.


I'm currently waiting on my 'google takeout' link to download my library in 476 individual zip files. can't wait.

"Why didn't you back up your music, CAD?" Because i've been pushing shite up to google music since 2011 and gone through many crashed hard drives and systems since then. I was the brain-dead idiot who thought Google was too big to fail and lose my entire collection posted to the cloud.

Cloud storage provided by our benevolent Tech Gods. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

thanks google for ruining a music app that had been damn near perfect for a decade.
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Hu_Flung_Pu
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Moral of the story.... Stop listening to weird shite and if you want weird shite that isn't on spotify, put it on your plex server.


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Stop listening to weird shit




CAD's weird shit

- Blade Runner Bootleg Esper Edition
- 500 rare jazz albums from the 1930s-2000s
- Everything remixed by RAZORMAID
- 4AD out-of-print albums
- 4AD rare wax-only recordings with bonus tracks
- Everything on the Projekt and Hyperium labels from the early 1990s
- CAD's *MASSIVE* FAX CD collection he had a personal subscription to from earRational records out of Denver for years
- a very particular mastering of Dark Side of the Moon
- my huge exotica collection (erotic lounge, mood mosaic collection , back to mine collection, late night tales, tons and tons of obscure lounge compilations, "The Trip" curated collections)
- artists i've followed for years like lynn canfield from bands like Area and The Moon 7x who sent me never-published music.
- a zillion more things like this


yeah, CAD has weird tastes and now I am going to be forced YT music "taco bell selections" now for the rest of my life because google cant stand the fact there's no royalty arrangement for probably 50% of CAD's weird shite so they don't want it playing over my speakers.
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Parrish
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
One also can't make playlists for kids like one could with Google Music or still can with other services. That's an annoying one for my family.

We watch enough youtube videos that we've hung on to YT Music to keep YT Premium and commercial-free YT videos, but don't watch enough to justify paying for YT premium and a separate music streaming service.


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Hu_Flung_Pu
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- Blade Runner Bootleg Esper Edition
- 500 rare jazz albums from the 1930s-2000s
- Everything remixed by RAZORMAID
- 4AD out-of-print albums
- 4AD rare wax-only recordings with bonus tracks
- Everything on the Projekt and Hyperium labels from the early 1990s
- CAD's *MASSIVE* FAX CD collection he had a personal subscription to from earRational records out of Denver for years
- a very particular mastering of Dark Side of the Moon


Rip it to a plex server and use your plex player on your phone to play them.


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Rip it to a plex server and use your plex player on your phone to play them.
asked and answered in other threads

you ever try jamming to your plex-hosted music in your vehicle using LTE? good luck. buffer-city. its unlistenable.

yeah when i'm at home there are workarounds for listening to plex but the plex android app doesn't support casting so i have to fire up plex on my laptop in a browser to get sonos casting options (see screenshot on page 1).

so yeah, google fricked up a great thing; access to my meticulously curated music collection anywhere, anytime.

yes, i was spoiled.

yes i prefer my curated music over the shitty taco-bell selections all online streaming services vomit out.

when i listen to my jazz collection on 'random' its like night and day vs any of the shitty 'jazz stations' on google music or youtube or anything.

you're being fed shite by streaming services. taco-bell music for the masses because most people don't care or notice the music is the cheapest royalty fee (aka shitty music) which bubbles to the top.

yes you can go and force it to play a given album to get access to all the tracks but what a shitty way to live vs knowing you have a very high quality collection of jazz that gets played without discrimination VERSUS shitty record company deals that vomit out and repeat playing the same old tired and crappy tracks because, hey, nobody is complaining right? Its *better* than you having your own collection of music because there's eleventy-billlllllion albums! we know because the website told us! hearing the same shite tracks ALL THE frickING TIME?? thats just your imagination because hey, remember we have eleventy-billion albums in our music cloud! stop lying about hearing that same massive attack track no matter how many times you downvote it and tell it to frickING GO AWAY. you're a lying liar because streaming means you never have to hear the same shite constantly. you must be thinking of Pandora and we would NEVER follow their business model!

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Hu_Flung_Pu
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
Played fine when I didn’t try to douche it and go flac.


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What's douchy about flac?


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Hu_Flung_Pu
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
Because it requires critical listening to hear a perceivable difference and 99.9999999% can’t tell in the car or on mobile devices.

Requiring flac in a car is pretentious.
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TigerWise
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
Casting from your phone to a WiFi speaker and worried about audio quality????


AlxTgr
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OK, pretty funny reading is a search for "youtube music sucks" plus the user reviews in the play store. This app may set a record for one star reviews


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I think you've found a gap in the market tbh. I dont think most people are uploading their own ripped music to cloud players like you. Write an app or pay someone to, you might make some money.

ETA


But your casting issue is strange and shitty. Wish I had more on that.
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DoubleDown
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
Which is weird cause a lot of the times I wish I paid for YouTube music even though we have a family plan for Apple Music. It seems to find songs for my gym workouts that Apple Music never comes cose too...


AlxTgr
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The thing is, Google Play was damn near perfect. It's played a huge part in how I enjoy my new house by combining it with a chromecast music and all the various speakers that were already installed here when I bough tit. So simple to use and amazing accuracy one genre and general period. YT Music is like the dollar general version with flakey performance.


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The thing is, Google Play was damn near perfect. It's played a huge part in how I enjoy my new house by combining it with a chromecast music and all the various speakers that were already installed here when I bough tit. So simple to use and amazing accuracy one genre and general period. YT Music is like the dollar general version with flakey performance.


hell must have frozen over because alxtgr and cad agree on something


CAD703X
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Because it requires critical listening to hear a perceivable difference and 99.9999999% can’t tell in the car or on mobile devices.

Requiring flac in a car is pretentious.


i think i didn't explain this very well. all of my *LOCAL* music is FLAC if possible. Just like I prefer native 4K HDR REMUX movies.

I like having uncompressed music to source any transcodes from.

once it goes up into google's cloud or wherever it turns it into whatever-the-hell google wants it to be. I believe I was able to specify 320 when I set this up originally with the music download manager app.

as to tigerwise's snarky comment; what's wrong with playing local files on my SONOS that are FLAC? sonos supports FLAC. does the fact its going through WiFi make it any less FLAC-y? i can stream 4K movies through my WiFi network as well so I don't think a 100MB FLAC audio file is too much to handle.

sure i could be a snob and buy $5,000 speakers and retarded everest wiring but sonos handles FLAC files just fine.

LINK

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Plex and Sonos FLAC Streaming
If you use a Plex server on your network, the minimum upload speed required to stream FLAC music files is 1.5Mbps or higher. Sonos supports FLAC up to 1536kbps. FLAC files must be encoded at 16-bit depth (24bit, 48kHz-Sonos S2 system only). To play hi-res FLAC files like 24-bit FLAC, Plex can transcode audio tracks into a type Sonos can play, enlarging your music library without format limits.
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AlxTgr
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
I was probably wrong.


CAD703X
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re: Crappy YT Music continues to be crappy
losing the genres i spent years setting up to wrangle my voluminous collection was a stake to my heart.

when you have thousands of albums genres was the only way to keep all my shite straight and organized so i could play any 'style' i wanted and have shite at my fingertips rather than scrolling through an endless sea of music.

this is MY FAULT for expecting features google touted for 10 years would translate over to their new shitastic nanny-state music app.

i'm reading on the forums now google is only allowing yt music on 'screened devices'..aka TVs unless its a google speaker.

google: taking over your digital life one nanny-restriction at a time.
This post was edited on 10/8 at 10:08 am


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