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re: What XI do you want to see against Portugal
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:19 pm to Broski
Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:19 pm to Broski
how did Bacon do overall after coming in? I wasn't paying much attention to him because I was too busy crapping my pants on every ghana cross. From what I recall, I felt like he did fine but do much because the offense was stagnant.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:24 pm to Friend of OBUDan
We basically played the 4-4-2 the other night even though we were supposed to be in a diamond. It's not a bad formation if you are hell bent on counterattacking. We might as well go to the 4-5-1 with the way were were set up, as our central midfielders were spaced so closely together, with absolutely no support for the attacking players.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:09 pm to MLSter
quote:
----------------Howard-------
--Cameron--Brooks--Besler--Chandler
--Fabs--Jones--Bradley--Beasley
------------Dempsey------------
------------Bacon-------------
and im not even drunk
This is why people laugh at you when you say that you know soccer and claim you could play pro.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:20 pm to crazy4lsu
yeah, I know. that's why I want none of it versus Portugal 
just don't think the two striker system works for us without jozy.
just don't think the two striker system works for us without jozy.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:29 pm to Friend of OBUDan
We also don't really have a lone striker.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:30 pm to Friend of OBUDan
-----------------Howard----------------
Johnson----Cameron----Besler----Beasley
----------------Beckerman--------------
Bedoya-----------Bradley----------Jones
----------------Diskerud---------------
-----------------Dempsey---------------
this probably won't happen, but you clog the middle and push beckerman over to help with Ronaldo and drop Bradley into Beckerman's spot and Mix into to Bradley's.
Johnson----Cameron----Besler----Beasley
----------------Beckerman--------------
Bedoya-----------Bradley----------Jones
----------------Diskerud---------------
-----------------Dempsey---------------
this probably won't happen, but you clog the middle and push beckerman over to help with Ronaldo and drop Bradley into Beckerman's spot and Mix into to Bradley's.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:31 pm to Friend of OBUDan
quote:
just don't think the two striker system works for us without jozy.
Well it doesn't seem like we can play as a lone striker anyway. We are in a shite situation without a backup striker to Jozy.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 2:22 am to crazy4lsu
quote:At some point, give Wondo a shot. Better vs. Portugal than Germany.
Well it doesn't seem like we can play as a lone striker anyway. We are in a shite situation without a backup striker to Jozy.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:38 am to Dalosaqy
I have to think of Wondo as a sub. He's proven that he's not a target forward (and in fact had a few give-aways during the friendly that caused counter-attacks doing that). If he comes in at all, it has to be as a sub - especially in that heat, the D will be gassed and his movement could cause problems late.
I think we're either looking at a 4-2-3-1 with Deuce up top and Zusi on with Bedoya to help contend with Portugals outside play (CR and Nani) - or - Bacon up top with Deuce underneath, sort of like the same basic formation as Ghana but with Bacon in for Jozy. With that knowledge ahead of time, I think BAcon and Deuce can work some things out with Bradley. Bacon isn't a target forward either, but he is much better at passing, has patience, and generaly can fill that role a lot better than Wondo. I also think that Bacon can make some runs that will cause the Portugal D problems throughout the game.
I think we're either looking at a 4-2-3-1 with Deuce up top and Zusi on with Bedoya to help contend with Portugals outside play (CR and Nani) - or - Bacon up top with Deuce underneath, sort of like the same basic formation as Ghana but with Bacon in for Jozy. With that knowledge ahead of time, I think BAcon and Deuce can work some things out with Bradley. Bacon isn't a target forward either, but he is much better at passing, has patience, and generaly can fill that role a lot better than Wondo. I also think that Bacon can make some runs that will cause the Portugal D problems throughout the game.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:21 am to Tigerstark
quote:Agree. I'm thinking 60' needing an equalizer or to break a tie. He has more than proven himself capable in that situation.
I have to think of Wondo as a sub.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:30 am to crazy4lsu
yeah, but my thought is, better to have Dempsey toiling up there out of position and get a better hold of the possession game by adding zusi rather than weakening our midfield to no real attacking advantage from dempsey and AJ/Wondo.
if I wasn't terrified of CR7 i'd say play Johnson or yedlin at RM/RW to hit their weak left side on the counter (I disagree about putting Chandler there just because it seems to me he has less recovery speed and offensive ability). just sucks we have to choose between skilled CAMs and fast, out of position full backs in our wide positions. a player like old school Donovan or what we expect green to be in a couple of years would have really made this team a threat with the ability to attack quickly.
if I wasn't terrified of CR7 i'd say play Johnson or yedlin at RM/RW to hit their weak left side on the counter (I disagree about putting Chandler there just because it seems to me he has less recovery speed and offensive ability). just sucks we have to choose between skilled CAMs and fast, out of position full backs in our wide positions. a player like old school Donovan or what we expect green to be in a couple of years would have really made this team a threat with the ability to attack quickly.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:11 am to LurkingTigers
quote:
----------------Howard---------------
Johnson---Cameron---Besler---Beasley
----------Jones------Beckerman-------
---Bedoya------Bradely------Dempsey--
---------------Wondo-----------------
THIS
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:15 am to Broski
4-2-3-1-ish
same backline
bradley/beckerman as DMs
jones as LM/roaver
bedoya at RM
dempsey playing the CF/CAM right behind AJ
jones/bradley will have freedom to move back/foward and hopefully bradley can link up to dempsey on counters better from a slightly removed position. with beckerman staying back (and jones hopefully not going too forward, which he has done playing LM lately), beasley can be allowed to push up further for a legit wing option
we need bedoya and fab against my boy ronaldo. end of story. keep zusi ready for a 70-75th minute sub for an almost guaranteed to be worn out bedoya. that's why i don't want zusi starting
we will be playing for a draw, but we need a draw. we may catch them on some counters, too, and we will only be able to do that with bradley staying a bit more back and not playing CAM
same backline
bradley/beckerman as DMs
jones as LM/roaver
bedoya at RM
dempsey playing the CF/CAM right behind AJ
jones/bradley will have freedom to move back/foward and hopefully bradley can link up to dempsey on counters better from a slightly removed position. with beckerman staying back (and jones hopefully not going too forward, which he has done playing LM lately), beasley can be allowed to push up further for a legit wing option
we need bedoya and fab against my boy ronaldo. end of story. keep zusi ready for a 70-75th minute sub for an almost guaranteed to be worn out bedoya. that's why i don't want zusi starting
we will be playing for a draw, but we need a draw. we may catch them on some counters, too, and we will only be able to do that with bradley staying a bit more back and not playing CAM
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:15 am to Dalosaqy
quote:
He has more than proven himself capable in that situation.
When? He went on a short run scoring goals against CONCACAF bottom-feeders and has done nothing else in a US shirt. He is not anywhere near international quality, and, in my opinion, is more of a waste in the 23 than Brad Davis.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:17 am to crazy4lsu
quote:
If we were to revert to a straight 4-4-2 I wouldn't mind Chandler on the right in place of Bedoya. Chandler will help us on the break in a big way.
i wouldn't be opposed to this, either
one underrated part of beasley/chandler is taht they can play outside in the midfield, IF we have guys to take their spot
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:19 am to Broski
4-3-3
Howard
Fabian, Cameron, Besler, Beasley
Jones, Bradley, Beckerman
Zusi, Wondo, Dempsey
Howard
Fabian, Cameron, Besler, Beasley
Jones, Bradley, Beckerman
Zusi, Wondo, Dempsey
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
I like Bedoya on the break more than Chandler.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:39 am to TN Bhoy
quote:Of course he doesn't measure up to your standards. Interesting how this basically mirrors your earlier opinions of Altidore and most other USMNT members. Not that I give a shite: Malcontents like you make up for low self-esteem by savaging most everything and everyone else around you. You are hardly worth this response.
When? He went on a short run scoring goals against CONCACAF bottom-feeders and has done nothing else in a US shirt. He is not anywhere near international quality, and, in my opinion, is more of a waste in the 23 than Brad Davis.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:40 am to Dalosaqy
quote:
your earlier opinions of Altidore
Did you notice how that thread ended for you?
And I'm still waiting for an instance when Wondo "proved" himself capable of being an impact sub against Portugal. It is ok to think that Jurgy made a wrong decision.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 9:42 am
Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:44 am to quail man
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