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re: USMNT Captain Michael Bradley had this to say about the travel ban
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:00 pm to GeauxTigers2020
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:00 pm to GeauxTigers2020
Now that's a cause I can get behind.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:17 pm to BleedPurpleGold
lol
You have no substance.
You have no substance.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:30 pm to DByrd2
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His comments fall in the "useless semi-celebrity opinion" file. He should focus on soccer and tell the press to step if they ask about politics.
I really hate this saying for two reasons. 1, everyone has an opinion. So many people are on here discussing theirs. How many wouldn't say it to the media if they were asked? 2. What do people think Trump was before being elected?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 5:50 pm to LuckyTiger
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You have no substance.
How about we just agree that we have vastly different interpretations of our constitution.
And that we need more Instagram dude posts. I can move across party lines to agree with that (actually ironically I think we're both members of the same political party).
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 8:57 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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You're advocating to knock out a cornerstone belief of this country
The constitutional authors couldn't have foreseen how different the world would be 250 years later. Do you not understand that continuing to let in excessive amounts of people from failing countries/cultures is obviously going to lead to a failing country here? Especially given the high birth rates of these cultures.
The ultimate problem isn't going to be terrorism it's going to be a slow bleed from millions of unproductive people.
I don't understand how, if it wasn't obvious enough already, someone can look at what is going on in Europe and not see the incredible folly these border policies are.
It's horrible what's happening in the Syria and the ME and my heart goes out to those people but not to the point of being willing to sacrifice the future of this country to save them. At some point they have to save themselves.
And the illegals, don't even get me started.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:00 pm to olddawg26
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That said I completely understand the need for domestic protection from terrorism as its a real thing.
Unfortunately the seven countries on the travel ban have produced a total of 0% of American deaths by terrorist attack since 9/11.
LINK
But yeah we're all waaay safer now.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:02 pm to Stewie Griffin
Sounds like we need to increase the ban then.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:05 pm to RedRifle
Bradley has been complete shite ever since his pathetic performance in Brasil 2014
And yeah his opinion on this is shite too
And yeah his opinion on this is shite too
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:11 pm to RandySavage
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The constitutional authors couldn't have foreseen how different the world would be 250 years later.
I don't believe the constitution is a "living document." I believe it's words apply to every situation regardless of time period. That's why the process to amend it is so stringent.
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The ultimate problem isn't going to be terrorism it's going to be a slow bleed from millions of unproductive people.
Since when has this been a problem in the past? This country has thrived off of inviting the disenfranchised into its arms. But that's beside the point. There is absolutely a legitimate concern for security and safety with such an influx of aliens. My primary concern is not necessarily with complete foreigners, but with those who have legal status here and whom were denied the rights that legal status invokes.
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I don't understand how, if it wasn't obvious enough already, someone can look at what is going on in Europe and not see these incredible folly these border policies are.
I don't like to compare this country to Europe. It ends up being something we love to draw comparisons on when it suits us and we love to ditch when it doesn't.
For example
- Just because socialism works in Europe doesn't mean it'll work in America.
- Do you see what's happening with refugees in Europe that will happen in America too.
I'm not saying either of those statements are false. Simply that a straight comparison between the two places doesn't hold water most of the time because we are so incredibly different in so many ways.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:39 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Since when has this been a problem in the past?
I'm not sure where you live but where I'm from many parts around here that used to be very nice are now complete dumps from the influx of Latinos, and that's just within the last 20-25 years.
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This country has thrived off of inviting the disenfranchised into its arms.
That may be true but I think we've past the tipping point. My number one issue is population control. If things were ever really going to get better we'd have to make some significant reforms to our child bearing policies but since that's not ever going to happen... immigration is one place we can actually stem the tide.
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I don't like to compare this country to Europe.
You're right there are a lot of differences but I don't see much difference in what the end result of letting in a highly questionable and largely unproductive population of people would end up being.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:40 pm to DByrd2
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He should focus on soccer and tell the press to step if they ask about politics
He should say whatever the frick he wants because he's an American with first amendment rights who has earned an audience by being an excellent athlete.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 9:47 pm to RandySavage
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My number one issue is population control. If things were ever really going to get better we'd have to make some significant reforms to our child bearing policies but since that's not ever going to happen... immigration is one place we can actually stem the tide.
Holy shite.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 10:10 pm to RandySavage
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The constitutional authors couldn't have foreseen how different the world would be 250 years later.
*argument not applicable to guns
Posted on 1/30/17 at 10:16 pm to Stewie Griffin
Stewie, from working in public hospitals where practically none of our patients pay for any of their bills (but the tax payer does), I can absolutely say that we are encouraging people to have kids who have no business having kids. Some of them don't even try to hide that they are having these kids to up their welfare checks, naming their children things like "cash money." A lot of these kids are born to mothers who don't have a lot of prenatal care (often by choice or gross negligence) and mothers abusing drugs, alcohol, having multiple STDs, etc. These all add complexity and complication to medical care of the mother and the child, sometimes causing issues for life that we have to care for. Those sad kids are screwed from the get go, and the tax payer foots the bill for their mother's (and usually absent father's) poor decisions... over and over and over. It gets old after a while. We definitely have population and culture issues in this country that no politician wants to touch because of the dreaded r word.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 10:36 pm to cwil177
Welfare reform, which I wholeheartedly support, has literally nothing to do with outdated, discredited, totalitarian ideas like "population control" and "child bearing policies"
Overpopulation is a long discredited myth - Malthus had no idea what a fricking freezer was, nor could he conceive of lab grown meat or exponential growth in computer technology fueling agricultural enhancement.
I thought Randy was a troll with his Chelsea shtick. Now I know he thinks government should determine how many children we have like a fricking terrible young adult sci fi novel. No wonder he loves Mourinho, the totalitarian of modern football.
Overpopulation is a long discredited myth - Malthus had no idea what a fricking freezer was, nor could he conceive of lab grown meat or exponential growth in computer technology fueling agricultural enhancement.
I thought Randy was a troll with his Chelsea shtick. Now I know he thinks government should determine how many children we have like a fricking terrible young adult sci fi novel. No wonder he loves Mourinho, the totalitarian of modern football.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 10:49 pm to cwil177
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to touch because of the dreaded r word.
What in the frick is the R word? Rick Astley?
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:10 pm to crazy4lsu
I'm guessing race
And I didn't read the whole thing but can someone tell me if the words Muslim or Islam are used in this EO? Seriously am curious with all the different information I see out there
And I didn't read the whole thing but can someone tell me if the words Muslim or Islam are used in this EO? Seriously am curious with all the different information I see out there
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:38 pm to etm512
Those words are not mentioned directly. However, the EO says that anyone claiming religious persecution in one of the 7 countries listed in the EO will receive priority for entry to this country if their religion is a minority religion in their country. Since all of those countries are majority Muslim, that in effect moves all the Muslims to the back of the line.
ETA: Also an interesting fact that I just heard today and found quite eye opening. For those who like to point to Germany and their immigration policy as a reason why the US should not accept any refugees: Germany has taken in 964,000 Syrian refugees, meanwhile the USA (a much larger country in both population and area) has taken in only 12,000. I don't think it's a good idea to take in nearly as many as Germany because it's just not feasible, but I do think it's morally wrong to put a blanket ban on people fleeing an awful situation in a wartorn country. Wasn't it Reagan who said the US should be a shining city on a hill? I don't think that means closing ourselves off to those who seek to work hard to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
ETA: Also an interesting fact that I just heard today and found quite eye opening. For those who like to point to Germany and their immigration policy as a reason why the US should not accept any refugees: Germany has taken in 964,000 Syrian refugees, meanwhile the USA (a much larger country in both population and area) has taken in only 12,000. I don't think it's a good idea to take in nearly as many as Germany because it's just not feasible, but I do think it's morally wrong to put a blanket ban on people fleeing an awful situation in a wartorn country. Wasn't it Reagan who said the US should be a shining city on a hill? I don't think that means closing ourselves off to those who seek to work hard to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
This post was edited on 1/30/17 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 1/30/17 at 11:47 pm to Patron Saint
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Also an interesting fact that I just heard today and found quite eye opening. For those who like to point to Germany and their immigration policy as a reason why the US should not accept any refugees: Germany has taken in 964,000 Syrian refugees, meanwhile the USA (a much larger country in both population and area) has taken in only 12,000. I don't think it's a good idea to take in nearly as many as Germany because it's just not feasible, but I do think it's morally wrong to put a blanket ban on people fleeing an awful situation in a wartorn country. Wasn't it Reagan who said the US should be a shining city on a hill? I don't think that means closing ourselves off to those who seek to work hard to improve the lives of themselves and their families.
Right
And people act like Obama opened the floodgates for refugees. Our refugee numbers have been pretty consistent since 2000
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