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re: United States of F#ck Yeah v. A Guy Named Ana | Gold Cup Group D | 9pm CT (FS1)

Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:33 am to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:33 am to
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I’d like to know if I can melt if it goes anything like the friendlies. Or do I have to wait the whole tournament?

nah, if we lose tonight, you actually have 100% reason to never watch a game again IMO
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:39 am to
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USMNT attendance is at the lowest that it's been in quite some time, that's money left on the table.

I imagine that tends to happen when you fail to qualify for the World Cup (and 600 days between official matches), and we haven't gained a ton of talent since then.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 11:40 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70865 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:41 am to
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I imagine that tends to happen when you fail to qualify for the World Cup


And that's my point... You can't just keep saying, wait, wait... wait...

Yeah, it's the Gold Cup, but this is the first time in 600 days that we're playing competitively and we have to bring those good feelings back. If we look like shite this tournament, Gregg better be on the hot seat.

Our program is at a crossroads right now.
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:44 am to
Easy fellas.

Generally you expect to see a better product in a competitive match vs a friendly, but I’m cautiously optimistic about that being the case tonight. In either case, I hear your point that a dose of temperance is in order, but I’m desperate for something to be hopeful about. “Let’s wait and see what GB can do” just isn’t doing it for me.

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:47 am to
Right now, progress is much more important than wins.
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 11:48 am
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70865 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:50 am to
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Right now, progress is much more important than wins.



You don't think wins = progress?

Please give me a scenario where we have an underwhelming Gold Cup but we still reach "progress"
This post was edited on 6/18/19 at 11:50 am
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
24279 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:50 am to
Hard to call it progress if we can’t beat Guyana though.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:56 am to
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You don't think wins = progress?

Not necessarily. We can continue looking better as a team and still draw or lose to a Panama.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70865 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 11:58 am to
Nice to see that you’re getting your excuses in early
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:13 pm to
I liked a lot of what I saw against Venezuela. So I hope to see continued improvement, fixing some of the mistakes (that were likely caused by unfamiliarity), plus the addition of some better players (Jozy, Bradley, Pulisic).
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11705 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:22 pm to
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We can continue looking better as a team and still draw or lose to a Panama.


False. The only two teams it is acceptable to lose to are Mexico and Costa Rica. Even then Costa Rica is on the down side of their golden generation.

I will be very pissed if we don't get 9 points out of the group, unless we rest everyone in game 3.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:32 pm to
Jesus get a room you two
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:36 pm to
How has the USMNT regressed so much in recent years when soccer has gained in popularity and more kids than ever are playing it in this country?

The sad truth is that our sports culture may never allow elite soccer talent to develop in large enough numbers. The allure of football baseball and basketball are still way too much. And then mix in lacrosse and hockey and even tri. Just in my limited experience as a parent of young kids I’ve seen several examples where a kid has some soccer potential but parents push them to another sport.

I used to think we were only a generation or 2 away. But now I see we are many generations away from being a legit soccer nation. And we may never get there. Hope I’m completely wrong about that.
Posted by Michael Stein
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
1906 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:36 pm to
As lacking in talent and depth as this US team is, they should still sweep through the group. The semifinal against probably Jamaica will be a test, but our team with Pulisic and McKennie should still beat them.

This will be a very chalk-heavy Gold Cup. One semifinal will be Mexico vs Canada/Costa Rica, the other will be USA vs Jamaica. I’m not optimistic on our chances of winning the tournament, but we’ve managed to do so with teams of roughly this level before.

I won’t be satisfied with anything less than a commanding, five-goal win against Guyana. They’ve been training together for a full week now. They better not look like shite again tonight, or I’ll start warming up the hot seat for Berhalter.

Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2496 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:44 pm to
I predict a 2-0 USA win, with plenty of stuff for y'all to bitch about.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20494 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:04 pm to
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I predict a 2-0 USA win, with plenty of stuff for y'all to bitch about.



I think this is most likely. Adding Bradley, pulisic and Jozy is obviously going to make a positive difference, but there is still a lot of shite around them.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8962 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:13 pm to
I think we may pull one out 3-0 or 4-1.

Defense is the biggest question for this roster. The Euro talent being included here will make the diffe4ence, though.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70865 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 1:51 pm to
Pulisic will have a goal or an assist today. Can't imagine anyone on Guyana has seen anyone with half his talent.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11705 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:02 pm to
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The sad truth is that our sports culture may never allow elite soccer talent to develop in large enough numbers.


There are 350 million people living in the US plus a large portion of US citizens living abroad. We need 23 at any given time to be productive soccer players. It will happen sooner rather than later, in no small part because MLS academies are a thing now.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/18/19 at 2:31 pm to
Our issue is we put too much stock in education.
Send these kids to academies like Pulisic
Not college
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