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re: The Times-Picayune Article on Soccer/World Cup
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:23 am to Tiger Phil
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:23 am to Tiger Phil
Our focus is wrong at the youth level. We need more wholescale changes. Hopefully now that we have nearly two generation of former American pros our pool of coaches increases. Hopefully many of them will actually coach.
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Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:25 am to crazy4lsu
the US soccer federation just needs to cut the youth fields in half or whatever. we need to just hire a bunch of higher-up german or dutch technical directors to institute their system in strategic locations (northeast, socal, texas, and florida i'd reckon)
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:28 am to crazy4lsu
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Our focus is wrong at the youth level. We need more wholescale changes. Hopefully now that we have nearly two generation of former American pros our pool of coaches increases. Hopefully many of them will actually coach.
I agree with that.
But it doesn't have to be pros that turn to coaching. We need more coaches to truly learn the game and to understand how to make players better for the long haul, which oftentimes will be at the cost of making their teams better for the current season.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
there needs to be a deal in place to end college soccer and have a structure in place to replace it... things like semipro leagues for each state and region, leading up to MLS eventually
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:31 am to chalmetteowl
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there needs to be a deal in place to end college soccer
no need
college can be like 1AA/D2. very little professional prospects but a place for college athletes
there is more than enough room for both tracts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:35 am to chalmetteowl
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there needs to be a deal in place to end college soccer
I believe this would actually hurt soccer in the US. If you remove the carrot of earning a college scholarship, you would reduce the number of families willing to invest in youth soccer for their kid.
Posted on 6/29/14 at 11:43 am to Tiger Phil
it depends on what replaces it...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:ozil was born and raised in germany. you mean khedira as the other turk? he's half tunisian and born and raised in germany.
germany, for instance, has 2 turks who start
quote:zidane was born and raised in france.
the greatest french player of all time is from algeria (iirc)
quote:sterling is the only player born outside england and he moved there when he was 5.
england would play its great players from other UK territories, if those players would accept
Posted on 6/30/14 at 5:09 pm to Switzerland
with that said, most of algeria's roster was born in france and half of ireland's team was born in england.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:16 pm to Tiger Phil
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I believe this would actually hurt soccer in the US. If you remove the carrot of earning a college scholarship, you would reduce the number of families willing to invest in youth soccer for their kid.
The level of competition is way too low in college for anyone to grow as a player. By the time a player graduates from college...yes, there are exceptions like Dempsey and MLS players.....his contemporaries in other countries are already playing professionally, and have been for five years, or they're out of the game.
Can you imagine if Wayne Rooney went to college first...?
:lol: or Theo Walcott? or Messi? They would have been ruined by inferior coaching, and would have trouble getting jobs coming out at 21 or 22.Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:32 pm to RedPop4
Ah, you're looking at it wrong.
For the top players - yes, college is counter-productive. But for the MAJORITY of players, college in the USA could be a much better option. IF: we would harness the cultural affinity for collegiate athletics AND we improved the level and constraints of collegiate coaching AND ALSO lengthened the seasons.
Now, for the rank-and-file players. If you take away the possibility of college scholarships for playing soccer, many parents would never get their kids started down the road at age 7, 8, 9...
Once again, more kids in, means more potential for the nation as a whole. We should look at ways to increase involvement in soccer, and then look at how we can increase our coaching to meet those demands.
ETA: Also, I think it is rather important that neither Messi nor Rooney nor Walcott grew up in America.
For the top players - yes, college is counter-productive. But for the MAJORITY of players, college in the USA could be a much better option. IF: we would harness the cultural affinity for collegiate athletics AND we improved the level and constraints of collegiate coaching AND ALSO lengthened the seasons.
Now, for the rank-and-file players. If you take away the possibility of college scholarships for playing soccer, many parents would never get their kids started down the road at age 7, 8, 9...
Once again, more kids in, means more potential for the nation as a whole. We should look at ways to increase involvement in soccer, and then look at how we can increase our coaching to meet those demands.
ETA: Also, I think it is rather important that neither Messi nor Rooney nor Walcott grew up in America.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:38 pm to tduecen
1 million less than the BCS championship game is shitty? That doesn't even take into account the watch parties.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:56 am to Tiger Phil
i just like the european model where there's a professional club per 10,000 people or so where players start as kids and eventually get called up to the first team as adults
of course there would have to be an educational component built in
of course there would have to be an educational component built in
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:05 am to Adam Banks
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I can agree with that it just sounded like the typical look at chad ochocinco type post from soccer fans. I agree that the skills take honing but if our athletes invested in soccer they others do abroad then we'd dominate the world cup just like the Olympics.
No fricking way. There's a difference between dominating the Olympics and dominating something other countries take seriously.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 6:12 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:51 am to Tiger Phil
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Once again, more kids in, means more potential for the nation as a whole. We should look at ways to increase involvement in soccer, and then look at how we can increase our coaching to meet those demands.
I think you have this backwards. It's the failures of coaching at the youth level that are holding us back. We've shown that we have the talent pool to create high quality players. The current system just does not do so consistently enough or do enough to maximize the players' talents. Even if someone of the quality of Mess, Ronaldo, or any other world class player was born in the US, they would never get close to the heights they've reached now unless they were lucky enough to be seen by a European team at one of their camps.
Will more athletes help? Duh. Any time you have a bigger talent pool, you're more likely to have one with extremely high natural talent and the potential to be something special. However, as it stands, the system is more likely to have a world class player happen almost by chance than to mold and create one.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:58 am to DoreonthePlains
quote:It's a question of supply and demand. If we increase the participation, then coaches will earn more. If coaches earn more, more people will want to coach, etc.
I think you have this backwards. It's the failures of coaching at the youth level that are holding us back.
quote:I agree with that...
However, as it stands, the system is more likely to have a world class player happen almost by chance than to mold and create one.
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