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Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:41 am to bbap
This is the same technology that will determine first downs in the NFL going forward: sensor in the ball measured by instrumentation in the chains.
It's the tech that is determining balls and strikes upon review. In baseball, if any part of the ball at any time just clips the zone, it's called a strike upon review. 90% of those pitches were balls in the past.
My point is: we need to get used to this kind of thing. It's not going away.
It's the tech that is determining balls and strikes upon review. In baseball, if any part of the ball at any time just clips the zone, it's called a strike upon review. 90% of those pitches were balls in the past.
My point is: we need to get used to this kind of thing. It's not going away.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:43 am to GeorgeTheGreek
Yeah it's definitely possible, i find the actual video to be somewhat inconclusive.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:46 am to bbap
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In real time how long do you think it took in between the supposed Croatia touch and the Portuguese obvious touch. .2 seconds? It stands to reason the blip should be in that graph.
Depends on the sweep speed of the graph. I 100% agree they should have shown both spikes if there were two deflections.
Apparently this is a very sensitive system. It has to be synchronized to the millisecond in order for it to work properly. Any lag in the camera system could have timed up the Portugal deflection with the spike on the graph displayed on the TV screen. Bottom line, they needed to show both.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:49 am to Crimson
Yeah I accept that it's possible they "dumbed down" the TV graphic for viewers but if they did so without showing the second spike that's a huge mistake. You need to show both.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:55 am to magildachunks
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Again by VAR, which gifted Portugal a PK
He dragged him down from behind. Was clearly a penalty. Was probably one of the few VAR reviews that was right all tournament
Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:05 am to TeddyPadillac
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He dragged him down from behind. Was clearly a penalty.
I need to see it again as I only saw it once and quickly but it looked to me he was wrapped, felt that and then fell. I didn’t think it was a penalty.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:25 am to GeorgeTheGreek
rotation of the ball never waivered
Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:34 am to TeddyPadillac
They haven’t called that a penalty all tournament. Bosnia dragged back Balogun worse than that at least three times on crosses and they weren’t even looked at by VAR.
Thats the issue with using VAR for subjective calls. There is no “obvious penalty.” Most refs, including VAR, have not called that a penalty all tournament. One VAR ref decides it is and it’s given. It’s just adding a second purely subjective set of eyes to the most important decisions of a game, which increases inconsistency and makes for terrible viewing.
Thats the issue with using VAR for subjective calls. There is no “obvious penalty.” Most refs, including VAR, have not called that a penalty all tournament. One VAR ref decides it is and it’s given. It’s just adding a second purely subjective set of eyes to the most important decisions of a game, which increases inconsistency and makes for terrible viewing.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:54 am to tigerfan88
Especially when that subjective call is being made by someone whose country your country recently invaded and absconded with their leader.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 10:07 am to Who_Dat_Tiger
If by chance the Portuguese hit was recorded a further down, it would be interesting to see how big of a spike it was vs the "hair swat" blip
FIFA needs to come out with the whole plays timeline. From when it was crossed to when it was hit into the goal. Showing all 4 blips. Should be out by now, so holding our breaths is pointless.
FIFA needs to come out with the whole plays timeline. From when it was crossed to when it was hit into the goal. Showing all 4 blips. Should be out by now, so holding our breaths is pointless.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 10:08 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 10:20 am to bbap
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I'm fairly skeptical as well. Did the graph show two touches? Because if not something's wrong.
FIFA should probably at least produce some videos that show the sensitivity level of these sensors in action.
However, I would assume the graph they showed is in sync with the instant the ball passed closest to the Croatian striker's head and the subsequent obvious touch by the defender is erased?
When they show the offside graph and only the deepest defender is there, no one says it's got to be wrong because you can't see the other defenders.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 10:49 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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If that were called offside on the field then let the play stand as off. The fact that it wasn’t called off and it was a 50/50 call the goal should count.
Then Ronaldo's first goal should have counted as well.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 10:50 am to magildachunks
Elite melt
Posted on 7/3/26 at 10:59 am to wm72
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However, I would assume the graph they showed is in sync with the instant the ball passed closest to the Croatian striker's head and the subsequent obvious touch by the defender is erased?
That’s the problem. We shouldn’t need to assume. They should be more transparent so we don’t have to.
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When they show the offside graph and only the deepest defender is there, no one says it's got to be wrong because you can't see the other defenders.
That is not a relevant comparison. They show the other defenders first, then zoom in on or isolate it to the deepest one and the offfsides player. The other defenders don’t matter.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:09 am to SUB
VAR was introduced to eliminate “clear and obvious” errors. I didn’t see anything in that play that could have been concluded as obvious….
Also, if you are saying the graze from Croatia is deliberate, but not the full head contact from Portugal, that is another problem.
FIFA is corrupt, proven numerous times.
Folks have the right to be suspicious of this bullshite
Also, if you are saying the graze from Croatia is deliberate, but not the full head contact from Portugal, that is another problem.
FIFA is corrupt, proven numerous times.
Folks have the right to be suspicious of this bullshite
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:10 am to Lou Pai
Fifa controls everything especially from the booth.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:12 am to SUB
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They show the other defenders first, then zoom in on or isolate it to the deepest one and the offfsides player. The other defenders don’t matter.
I get that but the Portuguese defender's touch didn't matter either.
They often show the offside graph from the large angle you describe but they also often just put the final freeze frame with the deepest defender.
More significantly, we seem to trust that they are able to have this instant in sync with the pass.
I'm not disagreeing that they should do more to demonstrate the technology, like I said in my post.
I also doubt they thought fans would be claiming that they didn't even have the video and sensor synced precisely since no one seems to be claiming that with the other offside graphs.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 11:35 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:34 am to wm72
Don't even use the technology. If you can't look at a still frame and instantly tell, call on the field stands.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:08 pm to RandySavage
Apparently the Croatian player admitted he touched the ball and the call was correct. I have not seen this confirmed though.
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