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Serious question on future of USMNT
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:06 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:06 am
Had a discussion with my sis an bil. My nephews are very talented in sports. My sis and bil will not let them play football due to concussions. The oldest is a good soccer player and baseball player, but leaning to soccer. Do you think this mindset across families will improve the talent pool for team USA in the future?
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 12:20 am
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:07 am to lsuson
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Serious question
only silly questions are allowed here
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Do you think this mindset across families will improve the talent pool for team USA in the future?
potato
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:11 am to lsuson
It's very likely that parents won't let their kids play football because of the growing concussion issues.
The overall pool won't improve drastically until the youth systems for MLS clubs gets better. But it's coming along so it will improve.
Also, put a short synopsis of what your thread is about so people don't just glance over it.
The overall pool won't improve drastically until the youth systems for MLS clubs gets better. But it's coming along so it will improve.
Also, put a short synopsis of what your thread is about so people don't just glance over it.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:16 am to lsuson
if they cheapen club ball, it will help extremely. it cost 2 thousand dollars to play club.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:16 am to lsuson
if they cheapen club ball, it will help extremely. it cost 2 thousand dollars to play club.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:19 am to fightingtigers98
Not true on club ball. Guess it depends on what area and program. I played in Mandeville. We were the lakers and had a solid team until the gamblers came along and took all of our decent playter. It didn't cost 2 grand. The travel wasn't cheap, but I guess it depends on how far a cup team is willing to travel.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:23 am to lsuson
If a lot of these kids in ghettos and derelict country locales in places like Florida played this sport for twenty years, the United States would be a serious contender, on par with Brazil.
Those kids will always play football until soccer is more easily accessible to them and they are the type of players we need on these teams. The athletes stateside make these guys look silly, imagine if they had their footwork and ball control developed for twenty years.
Soccer is not accessible to these types, and it certainly doesn't come with big money dreams here in a America. Not yet. Those are the hungry kids, the ones that dominate our national past time.
Those kids will always play football until soccer is more easily accessible to them and they are the type of players we need on these teams. The athletes stateside make these guys look silly, imagine if they had their footwork and ball control developed for twenty years.
Soccer is not accessible to these types, and it certainly doesn't come with big money dreams here in a America. Not yet. Those are the hungry kids, the ones that dominate our national past time.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:26 am to The Third Leg
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Those kids will always play football until soccer is more easily accessible to them and they are the type of players we need on these teams. The athletes stateside make these guys look silly, imagine if they had their footwork and ball control developed for twenty years.
Wait, so who is going to train them for 20 years?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:31 am to The Third Leg
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If a lot of these kids in ghettos and derelict country locales in places like Florida played this sport for twenty years, the United States would be a serious contender, on par with Brazil. Those kids will always play football until soccer is more easily accessible to them and they are the type of players we need on these teams. The athletes stateside make these guys look silly, imagine if they had their footwork and ball control developed for twenty years. Soccer is not accessible to these types, and it certainly doesn't come with big money dreams here in a America. Not yet. Those are the hungry kids, the ones that dominate our national past time.
Agree completely. If more of our great athletes played, the resources were there, and a better American League existed, things would be different. But none of these are the case right now. No one has the athletes we do. I don't believe it's close.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 12:39 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:32 am to cwil177
It's not like they need professional training for decades, they need to be playing, and learning the game on teams, from coaches. Poor black kids in hoods get a dozen together and play six on six football and have pee wee leagues available on the cheap.
Soccer is an expensive sport for kids to play and it's not like there aren't easier sporting options in low income areas. It's a rich mans game here, that's why we can't sling it with the best.
Soccer is an expensive sport for kids to play and it's not like there aren't easier sporting options in low income areas. It's a rich mans game here, that's why we can't sling it with the best.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:45 am to The Third Leg
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Soccer is an expensive sport for kids to play and it's not like there aren't easier sporting options in low income areas. It's a rich mans game here, that's why we can't sling it with the best.
Why is soccer so expensive for American kids when it is the most popular sport in every barrio in the world?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:16 am to FanInLA
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Why is soccer so expensive for American kids when it is the most popular sport in every barrio in the world?
Soccer is incredibly cheap to play, thats why its incredibly popular all over the world.
Football is very expensive, but with public schools subsidizing the costs, kids from lower socio-economic backgrounds have the opportunity to play.
The reason that football, basketball or even baseball are chosen isn't because of price to play, but because kids see the money that can be made in the pro leagues in the US. MLS doesn't offer that kind of exposure or income
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:21 am to Cockopotamus
I totally agree with you. I was quoting "The Third Leg" and was confused why he feels that way.
He said:
He said:
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Soccer is an expensive sport for kids to play and it's not like there aren't easier sporting options in low income areas. It's a rich mans game here, that's why we can't sling it with the best.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:25 am to The Third Leg
It's expensive to play because of the way the American sports systems are set up. If MLS teams invested in talented youth players, that would help. I remember there was a Chicago Fire Juniors starting up when I was playing youth soccer. They were terrible and mostly just kids who paid money so they could associate themselves with the Fire. I had good coaching growing up, but it cost an absolute fortune and my team lost out on some great players because it was too expensive.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:27 am to FanInLA
I'm no expert on the US but I'm sure he's talking about the money it takes in the US to get on good youth teams with decent coaching.
It's not the case in other countries that kids have to pay to play on these teams like in the USA.
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basically what he said above is an absolutely foreign concept in every other country aside from the USA of which I'm aware.
It's not the case in other countries that kids have to pay to play on these teams like in the USA.
EDIT ADDED:
basically what he said above is an absolutely foreign concept in every other country aside from the USA of which I'm aware.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 1:29 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:53 am to TheWalrus
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It's expensive to play because of the way the American sports systems are set up. If MLS teams invested in talented youth players, that would help. I remember there was a Chicago Fire Juniors starting up when I was playing youth soccer. They were terrible and mostly just kids who paid money so they could associate themselves with the Fire. I had good coaching growing up, but it cost an absolute fortune and my team lost out on some great players because it was too expensive.
Didn't they set up a Fire Juniors program in Rankin County when Justin Mapp was playing for the Fire?
I played for JFC for 6 years, and we flew to Dallas, Miami, Raleigh, Cincinatti, Houston, Tampa, Denver, etc... From U11-U19 we didn't lose to a team from MS, so for us to play good competition we had to fly around the country. Flying that much on top of staying in hotels that much makes it very expensive. Texas and Florida have a lot of good clubs, and that has a lot to do with the amount of Hispanics they have.
Anyway, in other countries, soccer is THE sport. This makes for a lot more kids playing, therefore a lot more teams, which makes the travel to play good competition shorter. This is America, and a lot of the country is starting to catch on, but we need to give it time. We hosted the WC 20 years ago, and we've come VERY far since then.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 1:55 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 6:59 am to TheWalrus
quote:you need a ball, that's it
It's expensive to play because of the way the American sports systems are set up.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:06 am to Pilot Tiger
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you need a ball, that's it
Not in the US. My son plays club ball and it is reasonable, around 650.00 not including travel expenses. But, his team has a lot of new Honduran immigrants on it and the concept of paying to play is something that is a difficult concept for them to understand.
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