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re: Serious question on future of USMNT

Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:25 am to
Posted by 4thandinches
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:25 am to
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This
Posted by Lordofwrath88
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:34 am to
there s good news though....


this is why we hire Jurgen Klinnsman, a man who knows Europe AND the USA very well and was brought in to help shake up the entire system.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:54 am to
I disagree that all you need is a ball. Kids here like to compete, and in a America we are taught to win, to play to win. You see these videos of kids playing Iraq, well, they haven't much else to play.

These kids I am referring to do not have the in depth knowledge and exposure to the game for sandlot soccer to be a more rewarding 'hood game than football or basketball. They don't understand the game.

The best athletes in American sport hail from rougher, African American neighborhoods. This is indisputable fact. Few of them play soccer, another fact. Few have access to the game, another fact.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:10 am to
They could all easily have access to the game. It's much cheaper and easier to play than football, it's probably the cheapest and easiest pickup sport to play, you don't even need a goal like you do for basketball.

The fact that American youth sports are so focused on winning and organization at such a young age really hampers our development. Kids aren't allowed to try things and develop creativity for fear they might lose a game. In Belgium they play 2 vs 2 until age 8. Many of the best foreign players grew up playing in the streets, on gravel and pavement.
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:24 am to
It's not the lack of youth soccer infrastructure that hampers development, its too much coaching and not enough kids trying to be cheeky with friends.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:38 am to
American kids don't have to be that creative though, these other kids do. American kids have the most comprehensive options for sport in the world.

If you're a kid, living in a concrete jungle, are you going to shoot hoops with your boys, playing pickup games for bragging rights, emulating the shite you saw on Sportscenter or are you going to grab a soccer ball and act like you've descended upon the work from a human landslide in Medellin?

These kids in other nations, they do this because they see it daily. Soccer is not marketed in ghettos here. It's foreign.
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Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:11 am to
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The best athletes in American sport hail from rougher, African American neighborhoods. This is indisputable fact. Few of them play soccer, another fact. Few have access to the game, another fact.


Eh, most public high schools have soccer teams.

And if these less fortunate kids can find ways to play AAU basketball (pretty sure you have to pay to play, like travel baseball) then they could find ways to play soccer, if they wanted
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:25 pm to
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And if these less fortunate kids can find ways to play AAU basketball (pretty sure you have to pay to play, like travel baseball) then they could find ways to play soccer, if they wanted

These kids aren't paying for AAU, others are, off the radar, in hopes of being connected if and when wealth strikes.

Imagine how weak American a football would be if all the poor kids had to pay huge sums for pee wee leagues and buy their own equipment. Because that's a closer example than hoops, which is the lowest overhead major sport.

Also, many kids have to choose soccer over football or hoops. See the rest of my post above for why they don't. Even then, starting in a high school is the opposite of what we need when the best in class starts when they can walk, basically.
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