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re: Report: Copa America, Gold Cup to merge, play regularly in US

Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:40 pm to
This is a lot more complicated than people are thinking. As the Confed Cup becomes more important, I don't think CONCACAF and CONMEBOL would want to give up those spots. I seriously doubt CONMEBOL nations would agree to give up hosting rights, as Chile, Argentina, and Brazil can host those tournaments easily.

If this does happen, I imagine a separate tournament developing specifically for the minnows of CONCACAF.

Also I wonder if this means they will combine qualification processes in the future. That would be a net negative for the US.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:44 pm to
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Every four years, staggered with the WC, would be a significant improvement.



yep

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:53 pm to
I would rather improve the Gold Cup than create a tournament where the US has little chance of winning.

Also the article on MLS's site has disappeared.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:54 pm to
How do you exactly improve the Gold Cup?
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30531 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Also the article on MLS's site has disappeared.


Yep.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

How do you exactly improve the Gold Cup?



once every four years
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30531 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 2:59 pm to
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once every four years


Meh. It wouldnt matter. The Gold cup is just not good or fun to watch no matter how infrequently they hold the tournament.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:01 pm to
But the competition is still shite, 2 years or 4 years.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:04 pm to
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Meh. It wouldnt matter. The Gold cup is just not good or fun to watch no matter how infrequently they hold the tournament.



The bigger countries would take it more serious if its ever four years

Ever two years puts us at a huge disadvantage wearing our players down.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

How do you exactly improve the Gold Cup?



Every four years would be an immediate improvement. Not only that the quality of play has increased throughout the whole tournament, something that I credit MLS for, as it has given players in CONCACAF another league to play in.

We would be destroyed as it is playing in CONMEBOL.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:54 pm to
Wow this thread turned from exciting unrealistic optimism to a heavy dose of reality really quickly.

Thanks for killing the buzz parade rainers.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
Manchester United Fan
Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 3:56 pm to
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Also I wonder if this means they will combine qualification processes in the future. That would be a net negative for the US.



Yep, definitely wouldn't want that to happen.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 3:57 pm
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:06 pm to
Jeff Carlisle just tweeted a clarification that it wouldn't be a combined Gold Cup and Copa but that they aren't ruling out the possibility of another or future Copas like this year's.
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 4:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 9:06 pm to
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I'd love it and I think it'd be invaluable for our national team. Better quality opponents, something to look forward to between World Cups. I'm all in.


The question is how exactly would this benefit the South American teams. What's in it for them? If anything, they should keep the Copa America exclusively in South America and invite six CONCACAF teams to make it a 16 team tournament.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25338 posts
Posted on 6/6/16 at 10:51 pm to
I think money is what they have an interest in. The more interest in the US = more money for everyone?

This is a no brainier for US Soccer if available. Play some of the best teams in the world with more regularity. Winning the Gold Cup isn't even that impressive of an accomplishment. We want to compete on the world stage so we might as well play the best.
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
42753 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 12:04 am to
So..

2017 Seperate Gold/Copa and Confed Cup
2018 WC
2019 Combined Copa/Gold in the US

Repeat
Posted by TheIrishFro
Member since Aug 2010
4709 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 2:12 am to
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This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by different arse
'Merica
Member since Apr 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 6/7/16 at 7:29 am to
quote:

2022 - World Cup in USA


If only...
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11338 posts
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:34 pm to
Would love to see it every four years to rival/complement the Euros. (Last WC Round-of-16 had 6 Euro & 8 Copa sides) Could be a 16 or even 24-team tournament (10 CONMEBOL, 3 NA, 5 CA, 5 CAR plus one CA/CAR playoff spot. Rotate between US & SA, still hold Gold Cup and Old Copa in off years for Confederations Cup. Would improve the quality of the CONCACAF minnows and give the SA sides someone else to beat up on.
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