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re: Our favorite Judas missed the cut today

Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:07 am to
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:07 am to
When he made his decision, he obviously had no idea of his future injury setbacks. What he saw was a promising future where he would play for top clubs around the world while being a prominent striker for the Italian fricking national team. Not sure if some of you guys can comprehend this, but Italy is lot better than the USA at soccer. He made a business decision, and has had very bad luck ever since.

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TN Bhoy


I'm going to continue to post because I bring much more to the table than you do when it comes to smart soccer conversation, and because I like it here.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:09 am to
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I get that, but every time I hear him speak and look at his Jersey Shore want to be face, I want to throat punch him. And it's not all his fault. I also blame Charlie Davies for being an a-hole.

Charlie Davies isn't so much an a-hole as he is a dumbass. Ruined his fricking career by breaking curfew. God dammit with Davies and Jozy up top we had the perfect combo for two, maybe 3 WC cycles. AND IT HAD SO. MUCH. SWAG.



Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9292 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:53 am to
Ehhh if he loves America in every aspect other than soccer, as he claims, the smart move would've been to choose the USA and become a Donovan or Dempseyesque figure in our setup. He would have way more usa endorsements and brand recognition, not to mention probably a better salary. Landon makes more than him, and both Bradley and Dempsey make more than double what Rossi does.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:32 am to
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I bring much more to the table than you do when it comes to smart soccer conversation



Says the guy who thought Di Canio > MON and that Di Canio would be great at Sunderland
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
7129 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 9:32 am to
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Ehhh if he loves America in every aspect other than soccer, as he claims, the smart move would've been to choose the USA and become a Donovan or Dempseyesque figure in our setup. He would have way more usa endorsements and brand recognition, not to mention probably a better salary. Landon makes more than him, and both Bradley and Dempsey make more than double what Rossi does.



Is that salary accurate? I know a lot of European salaries are post tax, not pre. Whereas US salaries are always pre-tax numbers.

Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9755 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 10:05 am to
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not to mention probably a better salary. Landon makes more than him, and both Bradley and Dempsey make more than double what Rossi does.



Is that salary accurate? I know a lot of European salaries are post tax, not pre. Whereas US salaries are always pre-tax numbers.



Yeah, people always get confused by the Italian contract numbers that are post tax since employers and not employees pay tax.

Rossi's salary isn't bad considering his new contract was a bit low and also heavily based in incentives for appearances due to the injuries. I think it's about $5 million a season in comparative US pre-tax numbers.

If not for the injury, it would probably be around $8 million.




This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:38 am to
I love your Italian knowledge. Thanks for posting here

BTW, what's it like being an American living in Italy and speaking the language fluently (I presume)? Because in France people were pretty blown away by the fact that an American could speak French, and I'll admit I speak it pretty well. Also, if you don't mind me asking, what do you do over there? And are you at Cherundolo levels of integration (ie, married a foreigner)? Because if I were to move back to France, I'm 99.9% sure I would end up marrying a French girl.
Posted by loweralabamatrojan
Lower Alabama
Member since Oct 2006
13287 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 11:46 am to
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I were to move back to France, I'm 99.9% sure I would end up marrying a French girl.

If I were single, that'd be one of the places I'd revisit. That and anywhere in summertime Greek Isles.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9755 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:26 pm to
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BTW, what's it like being an American living in Italy and speaking the language fluently (I presume)?


I love Italy. I lived there full time from 1997 until 2009, mostly in Rome (with a year in Genova and every summer in Cagliari). I had a record shop in Rome for 8 years.

The last 5 years I've been back and forth between Roma and New York as I work in music and there was just more work in NY.

I'd love to move back permanently one day though hopefully somewhere a bit more more laid back than Rome.


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And are you at Cherundolo levels of integration (ie, married a foreigner)?


Yeah I was married to an Italian girl and got dual citizenship.

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speaking the language fluently


I would say I read and write fluently; I also did a lot of translation. However, not a day goes by that someone doesn't make fun of my accent or I embarrassingly mispronounce something.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:37 pm to
Do you have an Italian passport? That would be neat. I have no idea how I would go about opening my own business in America, let alone a foreign country. That's just nuts (but awesome). I bet they respected your opinion on music because, you know, MURICA. Except for a few shitty French rap/pop songs, most of the music in France is American. Same with the TV shows. Those people love our TV shows holy shite.

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I'd love to move back permanently one day though hopefully somewhere a bit more more laid back than Rome.

I know very little about Italy in general, but having visited Verona I could see that place being kind of chill, by Italian standards. Bradley seemed to like it. Gorgeous, too.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:29 pm to
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Says the guy who thought Di Canio > MON and that Di Canio would be great at Sunderland


You keep going back to this like it was some big topic or something. No one gives a shite about Sunderland, Di Canio, or Martin fricking O'Neill. I had an opinion that proved to be wrong, maybe. God, you are miserable.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 9:38 am to
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You keep going back to this like it was some big topic or something



No, I keep going to it because anyone who thought that doesn't have an ounce of intelligence.

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God, you are miserable.




More "smart" arguments by the Judas-lover.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 9:44 am to
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reading sports news from both, hearing/reading what fans say there are probably a much higher percentage of Americans against all the German kids playing for the USA.

The only person ive ever seen throw a fit about this is Randy
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 9:47 am to
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Ehhh if he loves America in every aspect other than soccer, as he claims, the smart move would've been to choose the USA and become a Donovan or Dempseyesque figure in our setup. He would have way more usa endorsements and brand recognition, not to mention probably a better salary. Landon makes more than him, and both Bradley and Dempsey make more than double what Rossi does.



he should have kept his arse at Man United
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
7105 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 5:02 pm to
so is Rossi unable to make the one-time switch having never been to a World Cup with Italy?
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 5:15 pm to
Yes, he is most definitely cap-tied.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36346 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:53 pm to
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That and Italians are by far the most xenophobic people I've ever been around. Lived in Milan for a spell...such a miserable place filled with miserable people.


How does Balotelli make it then? On talent alone ? I have heard his own teammates and fans despise him.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9755 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 12:20 am to
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How does Balotelli make it then? On talent alone ? I have heard his own teammates and fans despise him.



Not even close to true.

His team mates seem to really like him quite a lot and defend him to the hilt in the press-- just listen to Buffon, De Rossi or Pirlo when asked about him. (or club team mates like Kompany, De Jong, Kaka, Muntari, Yaya Toure).


I'm sure all his team mates get frustrated with his immature antics at times but it's really hard to find a single one who seem to not like him.

The vast majority of Italian fans love Balotelli for the NT.

You'll never see the English news say a thing about the huge ovation he just got in Italy's last WC prep friendly but if 10 right wing nuts chant something against him it'll be posted and printed into infinity.



I would say that opposing fans of any team Milan plays really hate him when he plays for Milan but you could say the same thing about Totti and non Roma Italian fans.




This post was edited on 6/10/14 at 12:22 am
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:18 am to
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I would say that opposing fans of any team Milan plays really hate him when he plays for Milan but you could say the same thing about Totti and non Roma Italian fans.

While true, Totti doesn't get racist abuse hurled at him from opposing fans.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9755 posts
Posted on 6/10/14 at 9:30 am to
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While true, Totti doesn't get racist abuse hurled at him from opposing fans.



They make fun of him for being Roman with all the insulting stereotypes they can muster.


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