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re: Official LOL @England thread

Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:50 pm to
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For all the crap they get they had pretty much as many real chances as Italy.


yep. Couldn't agree more.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:50 pm to
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England could have lost 4-0 today


Could have won 4-0 as well.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:51 pm to
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Could have won 4-0 as well.


What a joke
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:51 pm to
that's why it's so ridiculous to talk hypothetical situations. Both teams had chances.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:52 pm to
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yep. Couldn't agree more.


At some point the team that completed the most passes and had the most possession was always the better team. Finishing and defending apparently are not attributes that matter anymore. Any team that wins by defending and finishing is just "lucky".
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:53 pm to
I'm not sure I believe in "luck" in sports.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:54 pm to
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What a joke


Well Johnson missed a shot from 7 yards out, Rooney missed a header from just as close, Young had a clean shot get deflected by a boot heel, Rooney had an open "bicycle" from 6-7 yards out, and Welbeck had a wide open shot from the top of the box that he put over. Italy's two best chances were either a lucky or amazing 25 yard volley by De Rossi and a cross that hit the post.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 10:07 pm to
Then you're stupid. Of course luck exists in sports.

England didn't have as many chances as Italy. That's a ridiculous statement.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 6/24/12 at 10:10 pm to
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Then you're stupid.


what a convincing defense. Agree with me or you're stupid. I didn't say it didn't exist I said I'm unconvinced.

fwiw, regardless of stats like robsavage said England were close to a goal numerous times, as were Italy. Italy passed better and set themselves up better but most of their shots were not even close.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 10:13 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 10:14 pm to
Let's not forget the John Terry open invitation for Swag to stay inside MULTIPLE TIMES.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 10:55 pm to
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Let's not forget the John Terry open invitation for Swag to stay inside MULTIPLE TIMES.


He got behind him with a real chance to score once and Terry recovered and blocked it. I just listed like four or five legit scoring chances for England. What did Italy create? The one Terry blocked, Lescott made a scrambling recovery once, the offside goal, and De Rossi's volley from 25 yards out? Italy had more shots England had more real opportunities to score.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 11:20 pm to
Official hate on Ashley young for diving while simultaneously laughing at him and England thread?

Also how the hell is there always an England player in the way when a player takes a shot? freakin ball magnets.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 11:23 pm to
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my thinking is Roy likes Milner's D and passing.


Backward passing?

But I think part of the problem is they only want to attack up the left flank through the ashley's and whomever is on the right side (theo) gets ignored.
Posted by rpulli1
the beach
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 12:06 am to
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they only want to attack up the left flank through the ashley's and whomever is on the right side (theo) gets ignored.


Well, then that policy needs to be reexamined.
To leave a true speedster like Theo on the bench until the 60th minute against a slow defense is unacceptable.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30136 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 3:40 am to
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To leave a true speedster like Theo on the bench until the 60th minute against a slow defense is unacceptable.

In all the England games I watched, Theo came on and immediately looked like one of the better players on the field. He made dangerous runs and set up real scoring opportunities, and his speed gave everyone fits. Not playing him more was a crime, IMO.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 3:50 am to
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For all the crap they get they had pretty much as many real chances as Italy. Unless you count shooting wildly from 25 yards a good chance. Rooneyx2, Young, Johnson, Welbeck all had very good chances to score.


yea cassano shooting everytime he had the ball was such a threat
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:35 am to
I said it in the other thread - they looked like expensive Greece

Walcott needed to start. In every game he was the offensive spark. Playing negatively will only get you so far.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35833 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 7:42 am to
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Walcott needed to start. In every game he was the offensive spark. Playing negatively will only get you so far.


Actually playing smart can make you Kings of Europe.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21120 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:42 am to
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yep. Couldn't agree more


Italy had more pressure, but their forwards looked awful.

I'm not sure I've ever seen so many pointless crosses in a game. No one seemed to care enough to look for a target or find the ball.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21061 posts
Posted on 6/25/12 at 8:51 am to
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Actually playing smart can make you Kings of Europe.


Well playing like Greece did 8 years ago is hopefully the exception and not the rule. England wasn't that outmanned where they needed to resort to those tactics. They actually created some chances early on when applying pressure. After that, 11 men behind the ball. Forwards never could get into an offensive rythym.

Also, does anyone have the mean to make a GIF of Hart before the PKs were taken with his arms stretched out? That would be a badass "Come at me, bro"
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