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re: Official LOL @England thread

Posted on 6/24/12 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 5:28 pm to
My mom is so confused why Balotelli gets to play for Manchester (in England) but doesn't play for England lol. I'm just glad she's getting into soccer. I know that's how much of a noob I was a few years ago.
Posted by ohiovol
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 6:42 pm to
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I don't understand why they play so negatively, England has so much talent, yet all they try to do is grind out games played in their own half.

And Rooney...did Pirlo slip some laxatives in his pre game beer or something? The game looked to fast for him, and his touch was not what I'm accustomed to seeing.


A common myth.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 6:50 pm to
England better start worrying about netting goals or even threatening to if they want to mean anything in 2014. Outside of being a Rooney fan and enjoying Welbeck's incredible hair, England is just disappointing to watch. I'm just glad that my bet that Germany would go further than England to a friend across the pond is netting me a few bucks.

As for Rooney, he has a little bit of an excuse with his only real playing time so far was against a Czech Republic team. Ashley Young, on the other hand, looked like absolute shite.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 6:53 pm
Posted by StarSaint
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:05 pm to
England has been pretty much a disappointment for the last 6-8 years.

Every major tournament we hear about all of their talent, only to have the same results be it losing from penalty kicks, slow pace, not enough pressure on the final third, and in general no creativity on the attack.

Rooney is good in the premier league, but when he faces true international competition, more often than not, he completely disappears.
Posted by LSUEX1925
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:24 pm to
The amount of fricks Balotelli gives is incomprable, he gives less than none
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 7:31 pm to
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I don't understand why they play so negatively


Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:13 pm to
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So, I asked why Scholes retired earlier in the in-game thread. This is why. England, what a joke


you think getting to the quarters with a brand new coach and numerous injuries is a joke?
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:14 pm to
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ETA: Ashley Young was England's disappointment of the tournament. He looked so promising this year for United. He was England's best player in qualifying and in friendlies post-2010. Really strange no-show from Young.


I agree.
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:30 pm to
I thought Young had one good game (although I can't remember if it was against Sweden or Ukraine), but other than that he was bad and today he was just terrible. Sometimes you'll see a wide player just not really get into the game, but it wasn't like he just had a quiet game, he was actively terrible.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 8:57 pm to
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I thought Young had one good game (although I can't remember if it was against Sweden or Ukraine), but other than that he was bad and today he was just terrible. Sometimes you'll see a wide player just not really get into the game, but it wasn't like he just had a quiet game, he was actively terrible.


I just do not understand it. He was great for Man U and great in qualifying.
Posted by rpulli1
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:07 pm to
What I cannot comprehend is why Theo did not start.
He has much more speed than Milner, and could have reeked havoc on Italy's left side, not allow ing them to push forward and make runs.
Milner is to England what Bornstein is to us.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:10 pm to
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What I cannot comprehend is why Theo did not start.


my thinking is Roy likes Milner's D and passing. I think he only wants one speedy winger and sees Theo as being better off the bench. Fwiw, Milner covered more ground than any England player in one of the games.
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:10 pm to
The biggest joke of all is the "At least England fought hard and defended well" BS.

They got lucky as hell that France, Sweden, Ukraine, and Italy capitalized on a combined 3 of their goal scoring chances, which, if I had to estimate, was probably in the 20-30 range
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:15 pm to
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What I cannot comprehend is why Theo did not start.




This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 9:17 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:20 pm to
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my thinking is Roy likes Milner's straight line running

FIFY
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:21 pm to
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The biggest joke of all is the "At least England fought hard and defended well" BS.


we know we know you don't like England but come on they did play good defense. Teams had a very very hard time scoring on them.

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They got lucky as hell


What a load of bullshite. You think that's more credible than they played good defense?

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which, if I had to estimate, was probably in the 20-30 range


France: 7 shots on target/ 21 overall

Sweden: 9 shots on target/ 12 overall

Ukraine: 3 shots on target/ 16 overall

Italy: 8 shots on target/ 36 overall










This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 9:25 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:26 pm to
7+9+8+3 = 27
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:46 pm to
Is that in between 20 and 30? I'm bad with math...

that figure doesn't even encapsulate chances like De Rossi's point blank miss or Balotelli's indecisiveness when through on goal from today.

England could have lost 4-0 today and it'd have been a fair scoreline. Whenever that's possible, it's not good defense, it's luck.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:48 pm to
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The biggest joke of all is the "At least England fought hard and defended well" BS.

They got lucky as hell that France, Sweden, Ukraine, and Italy capitalized on a combined 3 of their goal scoring chances, which, if I had to estimate, was probably in the 20-30 range


For all the crap they get they had pretty much as many real chances as Italy. Unless you count shooting wildly from 25 yards a good chance. Rooneyx2, Young, Johnson, Welbeck all had very good chances to score.

They only conceded one goal all tournament that can be blamed on the defense the other came off a lucky deflection and a shot from outside the box that beat Joe Hart at his near post. Moral victory sure but England did what they needed to do to give themselves a chance and couldn't come through in the lottery.
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 6/24/12 at 9:49 pm to
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England could have lost 4-0 today


coulda, shoulda, woulda. could have maybe happened. It's all hypothetical bullshite.

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it's luck.


No it's Italy not executing. England played worse than normal but to say they weren't playing good defense and it was all luck is craziness.
This post was edited on 6/24/12 at 9:51 pm
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