re: Man city confirmed to be cheating count, now with Barca being cheating count as well!!!

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Yeah and turn out like Everton, Villa, and Newcastle where they have a little success and then have to turn around and sell your best players to the big clubs to comply with the bullshite rules.

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The muh clubs can grow organically narrative of the last 48 hours by the red pundits has been great. Tell that to Southampton who literally were doing everything right from a recruiting and academy standpoint. Top half finishes, pushing to the doorstep of the Europe places. Then Liverpool decides they like half their team and they’ve never really recovered and have become a yo yo club again.

Growing organically often a curse. Sunderland finishes 7th on spectacular fashion, makes Europe and is now rewarded for it by only being allowed 70% net spend instead of 85%. So grow and be good, just not TOO good because now you’re at an actual recruiting disadvantage compared to the clubs you beat out. That’s real organic growth right there!

That 15 percent would be massive for our squad to consolidate and kick on this year. Instead we’re bone thin. Our owner is a French billionaire several times over but can’t supplement a bit of squad depth despite our success.

Or when a player is balling out that performance isn’t discussed in what their talent can do for their current club. It’s IMMEDIATELY analyzed in the setting of what big 6 clubs they could be moved to in the next window. This is then picked by the big social media guys and away we go.

But sure let’s keep the status quo so the same handful can sit at the table for the next few decades while everyone else is “growing organically.”

I hate city but I hate the other hypocrites more sometimes

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Liverpool went 30 years without winning.

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This destroys the "they can grow organically" narrative

If winning can't grow a club, and losing keeps one of the established elite at the top, then there is nothing smaller clubs can do.

Which teams have grown organically into a consistent title threat in the EPL the past 50 years? Clearly Chelsea and Man City don't count.

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This destroys the "they can grow organically" narrative ?

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It's not Liverpool fault your club was mismanaged for decades.


You had the same canvas to grow your clubs.


And speaking of Southampton. They built a brand new stadium before Arsenal did. So cry me a fricking river.

Let's not forget the fans of these clubs laughed at Arsenal for hiring a foreign born manager from the J League and now want to cry about how unfair it was.

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If winning can't grow a club, and losing keeps one of the established elite at the top, then there is nothing smaller clubs can do.

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This feels a bit dishonest, just because Liverpool wasn't winning PLs doesn't mean they sucked completely for 30 years, they still won 2 CL, 1 Europa League, 3 FA cups, 4 League cups

You are always going to have coexistence of "Haves" and Have Nots" in any football league, and in any professional league for that matter.

City & Chelsea just took advantage before anyone caught up with what they were doing. Why didn't Girona blow up in La liga? They are a City Group club. Made the CL one year, already relegated. They are operating under more strict rules than the PL, mostly because RM & Barcelona run the league, don't share TV deals and basically tell the other clubs to get fricked.

The PL is by far the most competitive league in Europe, and it's why they've won 3 of the last 4 Europe leagues, and 3 of the last 4 conference leagues.

These jack holes probably don't even know that FFP is a UEFA rule. So good luck growing your club when you are kicked out of Europe.


And City pushed for the current squad cost ratio in the premier league. Probably because they were inflating their revenues.



I went and looked it up, Arsenal finished 10th behind clubs like City and Villa in the 1st year of the premier league.


But we can't grow organically. The rules were the same for you then.

Supposedly, there isn't enough teams who will vote to severely punish, they are afraid of them being next in future and they getting same fate. League is afraid of it effecting their gravy train down the road.

frick those coward owners.


And where are the feds on these fake sponsorships? They are publicly traded, this was fraud on their paper work yearly.


And rack the few of us who called the fake sponsorships out as soon as the 1st one hit. We called it out then, and kept calling them out.

fricking fraud in the highest order

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Man City accused of avoiding £12m tax payments over Mancini contract
Analysis by not-for-profit group suggests club could face bill and penalty of up to £24m over alleged ‘sham’ consultancy arrangement

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Tax cheats too. But we can't grow organically. Get fricked you criminals.



If you as a person don't like the tax rules, you can't then just commit fraud to get ahead without repercussion. You guy's argument is simply retarded.

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It’s come out City’s defense for the appeal is that the UAE government was giving the fake sponsors and companies the money not the owners

They are fricke

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I don't know if some of these guys have actually followed this. But yes, their excuse was the money came from the government, not the sheik.

But they are the same.