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re: Liverpool FC 2011/12 Season Thread

Posted on 8/28/11 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/28/11 at 4:10 pm to
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Removing Lucas from the starting XI would have its defensive ramifications


That formation is suicide in my opinion. It's so important to have a player sit in front of the back four, especially a quality player. Give Gerrard the other CM position, and see if the side works better in terms of passing movement. Gerrard has a lovely passing range, and in order to be effective as a player will have to move deeper as he gets older. Give him the chance to adapt to a role, maybe in some games against a lower-tier side. He played that deep early in his career, but he's excelled as a CAM for most of his career. If Gerrard can learn how to set the tempo a la Paul Scholes later in his career, he can prolong his England time as well. I'd love to see him there.

The only way I could see the side succeeding without Lucas is if it was a really flat three man midfield. In this system, the man facing the ball-carrier would have to make sure he didn't get turned goalside, and allow the other two to close down on the man with the ball from a diagonal position in order to win the ball back. Without a dedicated ball-winner, most sides (outside of Man U) would struggle mightily.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 4:20 pm to
I agree. I was dreaming big. I know the likely scenario would be Gerrard in place of Henderson. Lucas is the rock of the team. He played a great game against Bolton.

LINK

ETA Where do you get your player stats?
This post was edited on 8/28/11 at 4:21 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39817 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 4:26 pm to
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ETA Where do you get your player stats?


Opta, whoscored.com, UEFA.com, soccernet, Guardian chalkboards, and a couple of others I can't remember. If I have the game on tape, I fast-forward and count. Other times its just my memory, which is mostly for positioning. Twitter has random stats as well. Why do you ask?
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/28/11 at 4:48 pm to
Just curious. Whoscored is an awesome website.
Posted by bayou scouser
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
33 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:42 am to
Anybody else thinking that our chances of winning the epl this season good? Despite the manchester clubs putting on goal fests this weekend, im still confident in our team. Im predicting suarez to be the player of the year if he stays healthy. Hopefully andy carroll can get on the score sheet a few times so he can gain some confidence. Id hate to see him get into a huge slump and be a huge waste of money.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23553 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:42 am to
Seems like we are being linked to Juan Manuel Vargas, again...

Odd, since LB and LW are in place. That being said, I guess Stuart Downing can always play on the right leaving Vargas for the left (too one footed to play on right).
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Anybody else thinking that our chances of winning the epl this season good?


Not sure if I'd say "good" just yet, but definitely possibly. Once I see how we fair against one of the Manchester clubs I'll have a better idea if its a good chance, or a possible chance.
This post was edited on 8/29/11 at 12:10 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23553 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Anybody else thinking that our chances of winning the epl this season good?


It's probable, but I would definitely settle for top 4, at this time (ask me again in April/May and I may feel different).

We handled both os the Manchesters easily under KK, last season...all 3 have strengthened over the summer. We may not win, but you won't see what happened yesterday, happening to LFC.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23553 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:02 pm to
Fingers crossed guys: Afellay

Translated as:
Afellay will accompany Kuyt Liverpool

Liverpool is not finished in the transfer market and reports to FC Barcelona for Ibrahim Afellay, write Spanish media on Monday. A transition would be for ten million euros ends meet.
Afellay pulled in 3.5 million euros for the winter from PSV to Barcelona. The midfielder came in his first six months of regular play, but saw in the summer, Cesc Fàbregas and Alexis Sanchez attracted. His view is therefore playing quite blurred.

Liverpool hopes to benefit from the Catalan surplus. The Reds have to deal with Juventus, which had already showed interest. The Old Lady would be greater benefits seen in a lease transfer, while Liverpool Afellay will finally take over.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Anybody else thinking that our chances of winning the epl this season good?


Nah. Both Manchesters are on a different level right now.
Posted by JLock
Member since Jun 2011
4988 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:16 pm to
I was about to comment on how shitty the grammar was until I realizedit was translated
Posted by xavierTIGER
Black Pearl
Member since Jan 2007
2203 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Nah. Both Manchesters are on a different level right now.


Unfortunately, I think you're right. However, I don't think we've seen the best from Pool, actually far from it. With so many new pieces, it may be November before the side fully gels and we see what we really have...then, who knows.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Nah. Both Manchesters are on a different level right now.


I dont think they're as far ahead as youre giving them credit for.
Posted by shelvey33
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
501 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:39 pm to
I think goals can be scored against both city and united. Plus, our defense has been pretty lights out.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4915 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:46 pm to
The offensive personel for the Manchester teams is pretty absurd though.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25261 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:52 pm to
The season is very young. And while the Manchester clubs are clearly the best RIGHT NOW, a lot can happen between now and the end of Spring.
Posted by shelvey33
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
501 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:40 pm to
I have a friend with a pretty reliable source that says Afellay is a real possibility. Around 8 mil. However, his wage bill will be huge. Again, this only coming from a friend who has a source (he has broken news to me before though).
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37634 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:45 pm to
Anyone see this? They make a lot of estimates and assumptions so it is not 100% accurate but still very interesting.

quote:

So, and here’s the big reveal, our true, as near-as-dammit, estimated crudely, yet probably not miles out, best approximation for net spend by LFC this summer is…….wait for it…….(drum roll) …. minus £1m. One whole million pounds (give or take a million or two)in credit. That’s the real likely ‘price’ of what in actuality will have been a nigh-on revolutionary turning over of the Liverpool squad.


By the way Anfield wrap is a very good site and a great pod cast.

Moneyball

Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
4071 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:47 pm to
Any word on Coates?
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25261 posts
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:52 pm to
Wow
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