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re: Klinsmann has a message for all the haters still out there

Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
I'm so sorry your hs crush isn't on the team.

You can still fap to his poster wearing a us kit above your bed though....dbag
Posted by uway
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
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I also don't understand why we had to only bring four forwards when we could have dropped Yedlin for Donovan and not really lost anything on defense.


First of all, Donovan is flat out not as good as he used to be, and there is no guarantee that he would have performed well in Brazil. Surely y'all can concede that. I agree it would be nice to have him now, but I'm not sure anything would have changed the other night anyway. He is not a Jozy replacement, and which midfielder would you have traded for him Monday night?

Secondly, JK simply did not want him on the team. He wouldn't have called him in had Jozy gotten hurt against Nigeria. It's either personal or he has legit reasons for thinking the team is better off without him.
Either way he's the coach and gets to make those calls.

Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
Lol what?

This is a message board. Are we not allowed to question the coach? I am sure all LSU fans support Les Miles 100% of the time.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:20 pm to
I've accepted that it's personal, and that it might pay off . JK is setting a precedent (at the highest level, BTW) that no one is safe, and that everyone must be all in at all times.

I think the risk (missing out on a run this year) is greater than the reward, but that's his call. He promised bold change, so bold measures are to be expected.

But I don't buy "Landon wasn't a top 23 player." I also understand Jurgen has to sell that pitch to the public.

In short, I support the decision, and totally disagree. And I'll be pissed if it costs us.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:22 pm to
If he is a fraction of what he was in 2013, then there is no doubt he should start. He is so much better than most of our roster. Worst case scenario is give him the Chicarito role and make him the supersub.

You are right that Jurgen does not want him there and it is his call. It does not mean his decision makes sense.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:24 pm to
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Landon wasn't a top 23 player."


This is a TEAM, not a top players list. A team will go father than a bunch of players who only like to go 80 percent
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:24 pm to
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Landon wasn't a top 23 player."


This is a TEAM, not a top players list. A team will go father than a bunch of players who only like to go 80 percent
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:26 pm to
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But I don't buy "Landon wasn't a top 23 player."


WTF?

You don't bring the "top 23" players. That wouldn't make any sense. You bring the best team.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:27 pm to
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In short, I support the decision, and totally disagree. And I'll be pissed if it costs us.


The pickle is that there is literally no way to know whether it costs us.
Posted by Dalosaqy
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:27 pm to
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pedestrian
Indeed!
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:29 pm to
Occram's Razor would strongly suggest that it is personal, and I absolutely hate that this type of behavior is going on with the USMNT when for so many years we were one of the only national teams that avoided this bullshite (at least since Harkes nailed Wynalda's wife, and we all saw what that led to).

As for him not being as good as he used to be, I'll say that the guy played the best soccer of his life last summer so the spiritual journey or whatever was certainly no detriment. His play the last few weeks has also shown he could be very helpful to this squad.

For Ghana, I think Bedoya and Zusi were a better fit since they track back more, but I hate the idea of using those two as our most offensive players other than Dempsey the rest of the way.

My biggest issue is that we have four players on this team who should never see a single second of action in a top tournament, and our player pool is way too deep for that. This will be a pain in the arse as our squad loses guys to yellow card accumulations, injuries, etc.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:29 pm to
It is definitely the god paradox where you cannot prove it either way, but you can make fair assumptions.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:31 pm to
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f he is a fraction of what he was in 2013, then there is no doubt he should start.

Just no.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:34 pm to
Gold Cup 2013 Donovan is better than Dempsey, Zusi, Bedoya, Johannsson, etc has ever played for the USMNT.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:35 pm to
This new fabrication of Landon as an out of shape bum is hilarious, especially considering how much our captain hates to run back.

Of course I am one of the only people who never gets on Dempsey for that since I have watched a ton of tournaments and have noticed many of the most gifted players don't bust their arse that much. I don't fantasize about a roster of 10 guys like Edgar Davids-types and a goalie. But if I did, I certainly wouldn't be calling out Donovan.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:37 pm to
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Not a good thing when some of your players have openly mocked him.

How did Germany do without him the next World Cup? Oh yeah they finished in the same place.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:40 pm to
The difference at Bayern Munich was night and day.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:40 pm to
This move by Klinsmann will go down in US soccer history. It will be the subject of stories decades from now.

I think a sizable majority realizes that it was a boneheaded move motivated by personal bias. Even the small group that defend it have resorted to "its his team, he can do what he wants." Only a few true believers will actually argue that it makes us a stronger team.

It is what it is. Go USA. Beat Portugal.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:42 pm to
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Even the small group that defend it have resorted to "its his team, he can do what he wants


OMG, they've resorted to stating a fact?
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 9:43 pm to
Yes.
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