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Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:14 pm to Bluefin
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But their bodies are built to withstand hits and run for about 10 minutes total,
Are soccer players bodies not built to withstand the running?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:14 pm to Chair
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Go look at any marathon runner's training schedule. They run 8-9 miles sometimes 3 times in a week's time and continue doing that for months.
Have you ran a marathon before?
Also, marathon training is running at the same speed and controlling your heart rate for hours. Soccer involves sprinting and completely different skill sets.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:14 pm to Bluefin
Im glad im not the only one who thought this 
Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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Have you ran a marathon before?
Nope. Never once said I did. Never once said I could. Never once said I could do it in a soccer game either.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:19 pm to Chair
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Are soccer players bodies not built to withstand the running?
Depends on where you're used to running. Certainly the Amazon's conditions cannot easily be mimicked and prepared for.
If a marathon runner is used to training in the Pacific Northwest, then runs a marathon in a Louisiana/Florida summer, do you not expect him to need a little more recovery time?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:19 pm to Chair
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Nope. Never once said I did. Never once said I could. Never once said I could do it in a soccer game either.
There is usually only 1 long run each week for marathon training which is why I asked. How would you know the recovery time of a marathon runner if you haven't experienced it?
Also, HITT training takes longer to recover from. These guys do both while also playing a pretty physical game.
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If a marathon runner is used to training in the Pacific Northwest, then runs a marathon in a Louisiana/Florida summer, do you not expect him to need a little more recovery time?
Yep, running a 5k in the summer had me in worse pain a few days later than running 13.1 the winter before.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 2:34 pm to 9th life
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but their opponents in the tournament are in that percentage. so if the athletic ability is equal, the team with more rest will have an advantage.
Yep. Our players can obviously recover better/faster to physical strain than an average citizen. But, believe it or not, they're not playing average German citizens, either. The best of the best in the world are at the WC. Any small disadvantage could make a difference.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 3:25 pm to Bluefin
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It shows your OP was biased to begin with
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Just another attack on the sport of soccer.
My point still stands. Legitimate questions are obviously an "attack." The fact that most US soccer fans can't even defend "your" sport without insults turns people away in droves.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 3:28 pm to Chair
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Go look at any marathon runner's training schedule. They run 8-9 miles sometimes 3 times in a week's time and continue doing that for months.
I have a friend who runs about 10 miles a day, but it's not sprinting like in a futbol game.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 4:29 pm to Srbtiger06
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For the 10 minutes they play?
And only half the players play for ten minutes, at best.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:29 pm to gnarkill1529
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You try running 9 miles in 80 or 90 mins and see how many days it takes you to be 100%
Um, a couple of hours? That is 8-9 minute pace.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:31 pm to SabiDojo
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Go look at any marathon runner's training schedule. They run 8-9 miles sometimes 3 times in a week's time and continue doing that for months.
Maybe some schmuck training for a local marathon. Any real runner runs a whole lot more than 8-9 miles per day.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:11 pm to Projectpat
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My point still stands. Legitimate questions are obviously an "attack." The fact that most US soccer fans can't even defend "your" sport without insults turns people away in droves.
Meh, it devolved from a legitimate discussion pretty quickly. But if that's why people don't watch soccer, so be it.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:45 pm to Chair
Let me try and break down your confusion for you.
So you are essentially explaining that NFL players are somehow magically not tired when playing on three days rest because they choose to play.
BUT
You're also asking why soccer players, who also choose to play on 3 days rest, are tired?
Both players decide to play on 3 days rest despite being extremely fatigued, but you are somehow arguing that NFL players aren't tired when playing on a Thursday night?
Goddamn, you really must be confused.
So you are essentially explaining that NFL players are somehow magically not tired when playing on three days rest because they choose to play.
BUT
You're also asking why soccer players, who also choose to play on 3 days rest, are tired?
Both players decide to play on 3 days rest despite being extremely fatigued, but you are somehow arguing that NFL players aren't tired when playing on a Thursday night?
Goddamn, you really must be confused.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:47 pm to AirRaidTT
Floppin' must take a lot out of a person.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:56 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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Any small disadvantage could make a difference.
This is i think a big point.. Its not like these athletes like NFL athletes on Thursday can't perform at high levels still.
Its that these players have to prepare at being at the highest level
All sports have fatique. NBA, NFL, WC soccer, etc.
You travel, physically destroy yourself, travel again, practice, travel, play again. all in a matter of days.
the sports are all grueling no matter the differences between the physical activity.
soccer is no different. Bradley ran 12 km a game and not pure distance running either. Its jog jog jog sprint your arse off jog jog sprint etc.
Sports take a toll on the athletes' bodies.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:02 pm to Chair
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It;s just a comparison about recovery.
Ask a marathon runner to do fartleks, which include full out sprints of unforeseen distances, without notice, and then must regroup, and run again at a similar or quicker pace (usually quicker, however there are some respites).
Add physical contact of varying levels of severity, and jumping. Concentrating on many things, not just your gait.
For forty five plus minutes, a fifteen minute rest, and forty five plus minutes.
Think about it. Get back to me.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:32 pm to Dandy Lion
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Ask a marathon runner to do fartleks, which include full out sprints of unforeseen distances, without notice, and then must regroup, and run again at a similar or quicker pace (usually quicker, however there are some respites).
Add physical contact of varying levels of severity, and jumping. Concentrating on many things, not just your gait.
For forty five plus minutes, a fifteen minute rest, and forty five plus minutes.
Think about it. Get back to me.
It would be a tough workout. They would take the next day easier. In rare cases, they might even take two days easy. The third day they would be back to normal for sure. 4th day is laughable.
I understand that people who got kicked in the shin or hard tackles and whatnot might be sore and need an extra day of healing. But 3 days of rest is way more than you need to combat fatigue.
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