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re: GROUP D - 11cst [Italy vs. Uruguay ESPN] [England vs. Costa Rica ESPN2]

Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by MetArl15
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:19 pm to
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It's ok as long as there isn't a mass of flesh hanging out of the biter's mouth.
Yeah you need to go full zombie before anyone really cares about it. Biting is just such normal behavior otherwise.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:19 pm to
why are we comparing soccer to different sports? It is just different. DWI or GTFO.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:20 pm to
You can't compare a non-timed sport like baseball to a timed sport. That's like using bowling or darts as your analogy. That being said, the attention on this game should be on Suarez being an insane vampire/shark.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:21 pm to
I just don't get why people care with soccer and not anything else. Again, I assume they have never played the game. Believe me, the players know the deal. You play to the whistle and you can always ask the ref how much time, and they will tell you down to the second. The clock you see on your TV is for your convenience only. But again, if you grew up watching movies featuring amazing buzzer beaters and hail mary's, I can see how this might frustrate you.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:21 pm to
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Extra time has nothing to do with it considering you know how much extra time there is.


Ya? It appears everyone in that last match don't agree with you, considering 5' were added yet it didn't end until 6'

I'm fine with it being variable by the way. Just admit it isn't exact. Give us what we want!
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:23 pm to
I like the way soccer keeps time with a running clock and adds time for wasted time, and I like how the game doesn't end during a dangerous attack. The thing I think people have a problem with is that it seems random how much time is added on.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:24 pm to
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you can always ask the ref how much time, and they will tell you down to the second.
He'll tell you whatever the frick he wants because he can always add time at his discretion. I think the point people are making is that he's the only one who truly has the power to stop the game. Whereas football and basketball have set rules in place that are outside of human judgements.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41015 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:25 pm to
Ya compare USA/Portugal 5' to Italy/Uruguay 5' and it's laughable
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:25 pm to
Actually, what the 4th official's board says is the MINIMUM. The issue with timing is soccer is how strict the referee is on stopping his watch. In this match, he probably wasn't stopping his watch for every stoppage like he should have because it would have meant 8 or so added minutes. The ref for US vs. Portugal was clearly stopping it at every instance.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:26 pm to
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that are outside of human judgements.


Unless the ref misses a player getting out of bounds.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:26 pm to
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In this match, he probably wasn't stopping his watch for every stoppage like he should have because it would have meant 8 or so added minutes. The ref for US vs. Portugal was clearly stopping it at every instance.
So it varies from match to match, but it's "clear"?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:27 pm to
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Unless the ref misses a player getting out of bounds.
Replay. Next
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
41015 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:28 pm to
Ya I realize that, and IMO that's a problem. Sure they accept it, players accept it etc, doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss if it's stupid or not.

I'd rather get back to the Suarez buffet talk though
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Suarez buffet talk though
Clearly, he skipped lunch and couldn't help himself.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4214 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:29 pm to
Does Suarez have more teeth than a normal person? Are they in rows like a shark?
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:29 pm to
Yea, it can change the outcome of a game, as we saw Sunday. But the truth is, you can't blame anyone but the players on the field. And the players wouldn't blame anyone but themselves. I just don't see why people care. You play to the whistle. It rarely changes the outcome, but when it does, it's always the losers who complain.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4214 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:31 pm to
I disagree with your point. To use your baseball analogy, that would be like playing a tenth inning even though the game isn't tied, and then when the winning team loses saying the players should have just held the lead. That final minute or two shouldn't have been played in the USA-Portugal game.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4214 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:35 pm to
When do opposing players start coating themselves in Tabasco sauce? Isn't that how you keep dogs from biting things you don't want them to bite?
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:35 pm to
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That final minute or two shouldn't have been played in the USA-Portugal game


That Bradley pass shouldn't have been God awful. The Ronaldo cross should have been dealt with by Cameron. That ball into the box in the 5th minute should have been dealt with by Cameron. Bradley should have scored in the 55th (IIRC) minute. Lots of things "should" and "shouldn't" happen but that's why they play the games.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4214 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:37 pm to
All of those other things happened during a portion of the game that no one would argue shouldn't have been played.
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