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re: You're starting to get a look at mark of the beast stuff
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:49 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:49 pm to FlexDawg
Not one of those passages disagree with my position. Not. One.
What is the wrath? Punishment that is temporal or eternal?
What is the hour of temptation? Are you attempting to apply that to the entire Tribulation period? Based on what comparative text?
We will be changed. At the end of the Tribulation at the Resurrection. And it cannot be the "last trump" if there are trumpet judgments during the course of the Tribulation.
You are completely disregarding the Olivet discourse and the testimony of the angels at the ascension of Jesus Christ to create a doctrine out of thin air.
What is the wrath? Punishment that is temporal or eternal?
What is the hour of temptation? Are you attempting to apply that to the entire Tribulation period? Based on what comparative text?
We will be changed. At the end of the Tribulation at the Resurrection. And it cannot be the "last trump" if there are trumpet judgments during the course of the Tribulation.
You are completely disregarding the Olivet discourse and the testimony of the angels at the ascension of Jesus Christ to create a doctrine out of thin air.
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Posted on 10/10/21 at 9:56 pm to FlexDawg
You keep using poor exegesis to create a separate, second event. There are not two events, only one. His bodily return at the conclusion of the Tribulation to execute His wrath upon the world and to gather His saints.
Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
Posted on 10/10/21 at 10:28 pm to prplhze2000
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Those books were pitiful
The Kirk Cameron movies were Oscar worthy though
Posted on 10/10/21 at 10:34 pm to Wolfhound45
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Wolf
You sandbagging sunuvabitch! I had no idea that, although humble, you are indeed a righteous man amongst the self righteous!
Posted on 10/10/21 at 11:42 pm to prplhze2000
quote:Colleague if mine insisted it was all the way up until he hospitalized for it. Had a change of heart, but it was too late and he died 8 days later.
Obviously the vaccine is not the mark
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:28 am to NPComb
quote:I am an incredibly flawed man who is saved through the grace of God. Any righteousness I have is imputed to me through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
NPComb
And I reiterate, I want my opposing position to be correct. But is is not. Believers will slowly, imperceptibly go into the Tribulation period. That is why they are encouraged to be alert to their Savior’s return at the conclusion. They will have no fixed time or date to refer to as to when the Tribulation period began.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:30 am to Bamafan24
I love to see a store only allow unvaxed
Wait how would you prove that
Wait how would you prove that
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:32 am to prplhze2000
I believe Revelations is over a much longer course of time than people think (because it’s consolidated in text). I think it’s been happening for a while and the book is getting more and more correct as we get closer.
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 6:35 am
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:43 am to scottfruget
I don’t think we’d have any choice if the economy tanked under tyranny. Smart people would have to survive somehow
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:58 am to BananaHammock
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Colleague if mine insisted it was all the way up until he hospitalized for it. Had a change of heart, but it was too late and he died 8 days later.
Pathetic attempt at fear mongering but it matters not, they won't be injecting me with that bullshite. No way. No how
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:15 am to prplhze2000
(LINK ]
I am a pre-tribber. But my salvation does not depend on what I believe about the rapture. This link talks about the difference between the Day of Christ and the Day of the Lord. This website has alot of good articles.
I am a pre-tribber. But my salvation does not depend on what I believe about the rapture. This link talks about the difference between the Day of Christ and the Day of the Lord. This website has alot of good articles.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:17 am to 3rdgentgr
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:39 pm to Wolfhound45
Wolf
You may enjoy this end times sermon. Dr Darrel Ferguson is one of the best biblical expositors I know. He runs through the verses pretty quickly. His argument is worthwhile.
Food for your soul ministries
Ps. He is post-trib
You may enjoy this end times sermon. Dr Darrel Ferguson is one of the best biblical expositors I know. He runs through the verses pretty quickly. His argument is worthwhile.
Food for your soul ministries
Ps. He is post-trib
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 10/11/21 at 7:47 pm to Padme
How do you know this isn’t the mark of the beast? Because you have gotten jabbed?
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:03 pm to RancherReb
I’m not gonna get jabbed. Christians can’t take the Mark and many Christians have taken the vax. I believe it’s a pre-cursor. I could even see it turning into the Mark, but no, I don’t believe it is or it fits. The Japanese found millions of bad doses that had magnetized who knows what in them, and they discarded them. It’s hard to believe doses like those haven’t been injected into people.
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:09 pm to prplhze2000
If one were to be a pre-millenialist then the most obvious thing that would eventually fit would be...
cryptocurrency
You wouldn't be able to buy or sell without your number.
...and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17...
cryptocurrency
You wouldn't be able to buy or sell without your number.
...and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17...
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:15 pm to scottfruget
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Can we, the great unvaxxed, create a shadow economy with our own form of money?
Yep. It's called Crypto.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 7:48 am to Padme
quote:Thanks P!
Padme
Posted on 10/13/21 at 7:54 am to Wolfhound45
I kinda assumed he was pre-trib and posted that before I listened to the last ten minutes. Then I realized he was post-trib. I wrote him and verified it. He falls in the camp that a rapture will occur, but that it will be part of the entourage before the second coming. I disagree, but the man knows his Bible.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:58 am to Padme
I read the pdf that was in the link you provided. He uses the same eschatological framework that I do. That the Olivet discourse is not simply for the nation of Israel but is applicable to both the natural and the wild (grafted) branches of the olive tree (Romans 11:16-18). That all will go through the Tribulation, some will be martyred for their faith and some (by the grace and mercy of God) will be preserved until His coming kingdom.
Again, with respect to those that disagree, that is the most natural and consistent rendering of the Scriptures. The message resonates from the first proclamation of Jesus (Matthew 4:17) until His return at the conclusion of the Tribulation period (Revelation 19:11-16).
Again, with respect to those that disagree, that is the most natural and consistent rendering of the Scriptures. The message resonates from the first proclamation of Jesus (Matthew 4:17) until His return at the conclusion of the Tribulation period (Revelation 19:11-16).
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