re: "You have no talent" - Trump speaking about our college graduates

quote:

---

Are you not self aware enough to realized that you have yet to say a single thing about the issue at hand?

---

What issue? You posted a 20 minute video that is segmented into 10 sections with no added argument in your OP.

Make your actual argument jackass.

I am sick of being told this country has a shortage of “talent.” That is a lie straight to my face. There is no shortage of STEM workers in America. There is only a shortage of cheap STEM workers. Corporations want people they can control, people who won’t argue, people who dont expect the wages an American needs to build a real life. They use the H-1B pipeline to keep salaries flat while pretending they’re doing something reasonable. That’s not free enterprise. That’s wage suppression dressed up as free enterprise. And I’m tired of being gaslit about it.

I look around and see thirty-year-olds who did everything right. They got the degrees, they took on the debt, they busted their asses for years. And what do they have to show for it. No house. No savings. No family started because they can’t afford one. They aren’t failing. They’re being locked out by a system that tells them they’re “not skilled enough” while importing cheaper workers to replace them. If there were a real shortage of talent, wages would be exploding, opportunities would be everywhere, and young people would be thriving. Instead they’re barely hanging on.

And I’m not going to sit here and swallow the idea that America doesn’t have the brains to run its own industries. We do. We absolutely do. What we don’t have is a corporate class willing to pay Americans what they’re worth. I’m done with the excuses. I’m done with the fake narratives. Just say the truth out loud. This isn’t about talent. It’s about money. It’s about executives squeezing every last drop from a generation that’s already drowning. And I refuse to pretend otherwise.

I've seen it brother. Indian stem workers 6 to an apartment...sending money home to the hovel they grew up in.

Trump isnt lying. Our colleges are bs. Many of our people are completely unprepared. I see it everyday. The standards in education and training have fallen behind over the last two decades. We have people that are intelligent enough to overcome it but they are few and far between. We also are going to have to come to grips with the fact that as boomers retire it will get worse. We seriously need to step it up. Instead of two years of rehashing hs in college we should be using those two years with in depth hands on learning.

It's fine for engineers to have AI help but AI still makes mistakes. I had AI to write some code for me and it had to write it 6 times to get it to work and it still wasn't totally correct. You still need to know what you are doing. It should be something you could do yourself but you just use it for efficiency or to bounce ideas off of. Currently AI is still in its infancy. IMHO people are clueless to how dangerous AI can become and we will look back and regret it.

I understand that. I have experienced it first hand.

But, Indian H-1B engineers aren’t more prepared than American engineers, and they’re not turnkey. Real engineering takes months or years of internal development on the job. No one walks in ready to run a process unit, troubleshoot a failure, or manage a safety system without being trained by the company itself. American grads need that training and so do imported workers. The only real difference is that H-1B workers are cheaper and have less leverage.

The whole “foreign engineers are better prepared” line is just a story companies tell to justify using lower-cost labor. In reality they still have to teach them the plant, the equipment, the regulations, the workflow, the troubleshooting methods, everything. Nobody shows up fully cooked. The only thing companies truly gain from H-1B engineers is a lower bill and an employee who can’t easily leave.

quote:

---

mispelled

---

You misspelled, misspelled.

quote:

---

Trump isnt lying. Our colleges are bs. Many of our people are completely unprepared. I see it everyday. The standards in education and training have fallen behind over the last two decades. We have people that are intelligent enough to overcome it but they are few and far between. We also are going to have to come to grips with the fact that as boomers retire it will get worse. We seriously need to step it up. Instead of two years of rehashing hs in college we should be using those two years with in depth hands on learning.

---

^This^

Recent Gen Z college graduates I have encountered are woefully unqualified to work in a professional setting. They lack initiative or critical thinking skills. Hopefully they can learn the skills they weren’t taught in college with on the job experience.

quote:

---

Any thoughts on h1b visas?

---

Done a few. Pain in the arse.

quote:

---

At least for me, this forum doesn't reflect the views of most fellow Trump supporters I know in real life on this issue.

---

The same here. No one that I know or associate with have changed their views. It’s the same people pushing the same thing.