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re: Yellen wants Treasury to tax unrealized capital gains

Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4749 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:02 pm to
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Yellen wants Treasury to tax unrealized capital gains


The Party has instructed you to rectify your thread title

It should read 'If you like your 401(k) you can keep your 401(k)'
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
2050 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:04 pm to
unconstitutional.
The Feds can constitutionally tax income, but unrealized capital gains are not income.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4749 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:06 pm to
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unconstitutional


Spoken like a true white supremacist

State Security is on the way to escort you and your family to local Party Headquarters
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:06 pm
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6218 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:08 pm to
The left will simply change the definition of income.

When the regional Fed leaders began preaching about waging war against social justice, equality and climate change, you knew the goalposts were being moved.

Posted by CrabInMyShoeMouth
Member since Jul 2016
2486 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:11 pm to
Right. He does make a good point about not fitting the definition of taxable income, but nothing is off the table when talking bout unrealized cap. gain tax, including the definition of taxable income. I don't this is in the realm of possibility but the fact it has been laid out as an idea is concerning on many levels, not just income tax.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 11:12 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:17 pm to
Dude. They’re changing definitions of race, gender, everything. Don’t think “taxable income” is some insurmountable obstacle.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:19 pm to
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unconstitutional.
The Feds can constitutionally tax income, but unrealized capital gains are not income.


The feds tax all manner of things that aren't income.

Estate taxes
Excise taxes
Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1312 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:28 pm to
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You already know the line. Blacks and other underprivileged groups do not have 401k savings. It's racist not to share and give everyone the same footing


Which makes it all the more funny/tragic because we've continually been told that educated whites and suburban women flocked to Biden and the dems. They're rewarded with no student loan forgiveness, mandatory "you're racist" trainings, men playing women's sports (killing title IX, and that whole locker room drama thing), and any semblance of retirement potentially vanishing.

The whiplash from reality hitting them will be a spectacle.
Posted by Catchfalaya
Member since Feb 2018
1921 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:32 pm to
My question is how would it be taxed. We know if you buy a commercial building at $400,000 and it sells for $600,000 you are taxed on $200,000 @ 20% of the gain on $200K. How would unrealized gain be taxed? They can’t just hit you for a 20% tax every year. Would it be a 2% tax every year based on the appraised value of said building?
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14817 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:33 pm to
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Treasury for many years has wanted to reduce the differences between corporate tax earnings and corporate GAAP (financial statement) earnings.


It'll be interesting to see if they actually push legislation with a minimum tax on "book" earnings. Thinking about tracking the impact of something like that on deferreds...bwahahaha.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19255 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:40 pm to
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Where does it end with these people?


When you have nothing left that they can take
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24829 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 11:45 pm to
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But that would only come after reining in the coronavirus pandemic, which has killed over 400,000 in the United States, and the economic devastation it brought.

Ok, so let's wait until whichever time the goddamn elf Fauci tells us it's safe and we can fully open the economy back up, and then unleash crippling taxes on that economy.

I fricking hate what we have allowed the liberals to do to America. From here on this country is going to be a blazing dumpster fire.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15442 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:42 am to
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I have not heard this one. 401k's and home equity will push some people over the edge. You have to think they're smarter than this.


Never underestimate the stupidity of government officials.

They’ll couch the 401k grab as necessary to save SSI, the media will proclaim it as the greatest idea ever and if you don’t support it you’ll be starving seniors.

Said seniors will be told their Social Security will disappear and fall all over themselves to talk about how necessary it is. Guilt their kids and grandchildren to support it. Opposition to it will be crushed without any outcry in the media.

I give it a year or less before they start talking seriously about it.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:45 am to
I don’t think this has been a secret.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47633 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 12:58 am to
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This is genius. Because they are idiots and will just spend it.
that boosts the economy more than hoarding it
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34885 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:05 am to
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that boosts the economy more than hoarding it


What part do you think qualifies as “hoarding” it?
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
1932 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 1:19 am to
It’s all tied in together, People NEED TO WTFU
THEY CREATE CHAOS, BIOLOGICAL “Silent Viruses”
Then they have a quick Vaccine
Then, while you are distracted, they will print $2-3 TRILLION and de-value everything you own. By the end of their scheme, they do not want general public to OWN ANYTHING. It’s either your on top or on the bottom.
People need to open their eyes. Have a good night! WB
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:25 am to
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My question is how would it be taxed. We know if you buy a commercial building at $400,000 and it sells for $600,000 you are taxed on $200,000 @ 20% of the gain on $200K. How would unrealized gain be taxed? They can’t just hit you for a 20% tax every year. Would it be a 2% tax every year based on the appraised value of said building?
So, you’ve already agreed to the idea of an unrealized capital gains tax and now you just want to know the details??? frick that!!!
Posted by Barroom
Georgia
Member since Jan 2021
372 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:49 am to
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Can I write off unrealized losses as well? Could make this fun.



No. You voted for it. You pay for it
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25469 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 4:53 am to
We are 26T in debt. If this is done what will national debt be in 5 years? What are the ramifications if otherwise. All this talk about “what else can we tax”, i‘ll hear you out but blind taxation for no resolution is theft.
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