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Yale Epidemiology Professor, Dr Harvey Risch says +80% of Covid-19 deaths were avoidable.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:03 pm
Mark Levin had Dr Risch on his Sunday evening show and it was good to hear a man who's spent +40 years in the epidemiology field agree with what many of us on this board have said in the past. If the so called experts would have gathered the frontline medical information in the first 3-4 months of the pandemic and used that information to treat patients going forward hundreds of thousands of lives could have potentially been saved.
The first step was to isolate the most vulnerable, as a nation we didn't do that very well. Later, as the pandemic progressed we began to learn through strong anecdotal evidence, treating patients with HCQ, Ivermectin, certain steroids and antibiotics, along with monoclonal antibodies etc. was undeniably effective....it was working. Data from frontline doctors who were not opposed to using this approach, who treated thousands of patients showed extremely good results and death rates below 1%.
Then Trump lost an election and the 3 vaccines entered into the Covid-19 pandemic equation. This was where the government controlled medical establishment took the reins of fighting the pandemic and the vaccines were going to be the primary approach to battling COVID-19. Dr Risch went on to explain the NIH and CDC are tied inextricably to the hip of Big Pharma and that's really where the issue lies. Big Pharma and insurance companies with their partners in the federal government have a plan to battle Covid-19, it's just not the best plan, hell, it ain't even a good plan..... in Dr Risch's professional opinion.
The first step was to isolate the most vulnerable, as a nation we didn't do that very well. Later, as the pandemic progressed we began to learn through strong anecdotal evidence, treating patients with HCQ, Ivermectin, certain steroids and antibiotics, along with monoclonal antibodies etc. was undeniably effective....it was working. Data from frontline doctors who were not opposed to using this approach, who treated thousands of patients showed extremely good results and death rates below 1%.
Then Trump lost an election and the 3 vaccines entered into the Covid-19 pandemic equation. This was where the government controlled medical establishment took the reins of fighting the pandemic and the vaccines were going to be the primary approach to battling COVID-19. Dr Risch went on to explain the NIH and CDC are tied inextricably to the hip of Big Pharma and that's really where the issue lies. Big Pharma and insurance companies with their partners in the federal government have a plan to battle Covid-19, it's just not the best plan, hell, it ain't even a good plan..... in Dr Risch's professional opinion.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 1:05 pm
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:03 pm to Bass Tiger
Not shocking, since even the CDC admits only 5% of COVID deaths are pure SARS CoV-2 with no co-morbidities.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:04 pm to Bass Tiger
100% were preventable if it weren't for the release of the gain of function experiments in Wuhan
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:44 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Yes, in fact many on here fought tooth and nail against it. How many of the saved thousands come from this misstep?
The first step was to isolate the most vulnerable, as a nation we didn't do that very well.
quote:The death rate is still below 1% - I'm not sure what point he is trying to make here.
who treated thousands of patients showed extremely good results and death rates below 1%.
quote:I don't see any mention in this paragraph of how this caused (rather than prevented) thousands of deaths. Because clearly, the vaccines have prevented thousands of deaths.
Then Trump lost an election and the 3 vaccines entered into the Covid-19 pandemic equation. This was where the government controlled medical establishment took the reins of fighting the pandemic and the vaccines were going to be the primary approach to battling COVID-19. Dr Risch went on to explain the NIH and CDC are tied inextricably to the hip of Big Pharma and that's really where the issue lies. Big Pharma and insurance companies with their partners in the federal government have a plan to battle Covid-19, it's just not the best plan, hell, it ain't even a good plan..... in Dr Risch's professional opinion.
Dr. Risch sounds like a quack.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I don't see any mention in this paragraph of how this caused (rather than prevented) thousands of deaths.
The obsession with the vaccine being the only thing one can do to save themselves from covid has cost thousands of lives. Still to this day most people are sent home with zero treatment options by doctors when they are infected. Not to mention other preventative measures
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:50 pm to East Coast Band
Oh you mean giving doctors treatment pathways that worked globally instead of sending people home with aspirin until they needed a vent would’ve saved a lot of people from an unnecessary death?
Or that threatening their licenses if they dared to prescribe these low risk and inexpensive treatments might not be the best way to reduce mortality?
Or suggesting something crazy like people with low vitamin D and C levels should try to address that to maximize their immune response when they were inevitably exposed was just too much effort for health authorities to make during a global pandemic?
Or that cheap antibody tests would’ve let people understand their real risk levels and avoided unnecessary vaccines and opened the economy months earlier than they were which would’ve prevented the impending supply chain failure and inflation death spiral we’ve entered?
Wild.
Or that threatening their licenses if they dared to prescribe these low risk and inexpensive treatments might not be the best way to reduce mortality?
Or suggesting something crazy like people with low vitamin D and C levels should try to address that to maximize their immune response when they were inevitably exposed was just too much effort for health authorities to make during a global pandemic?
Or that cheap antibody tests would’ve let people understand their real risk levels and avoided unnecessary vaccines and opened the economy months earlier than they were which would’ve prevented the impending supply chain failure and inflation death spiral we’ve entered?
Wild.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 1:55 pm to DallasTiger11
quote:It's not the only thing - as the article says, rational distancing measures probably do the most (particularly for the elderly).
The obsession with the vaccine being the only thing one can do to save themselves from covid has cost thousands of lives.
quote:Which treatment options in this hypothetical are you advocating? I'll bet the subset of people diagnosed as covid-infected that are then sent home and then die is really small.
Still to this day most people are sent home with zero treatment options by doctors when they are infected.
quote:Such as?
Not to mention other preventative measures
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Yes, in fact many on here fought tooth and nail against it. How many of the saved thousands come from this misstep?
Link a few if you aren’t lying or too lazy
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The death rate is still below 1% - I'm not sure what point he is trying to make here.
Whatever happened to “if we can save one life”? You know, the same liberal dumb frick mentality they leveraged in the first place.
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I don't see any mention in this paragraph of how this caused (rather than prevented) thousands of deaths. Because clearly, the vaccines have prevented thousands of deaths. Dr. Risch sounds like a quack.
You sound like a count.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:02 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Still to this day most people are sent home with zero treatment options by doctors when they are infected.
Which treatment options in this hypothetical are you advocating? I'll bet the subset of people diagnosed as covid-infected that are then sent home and then die is really small.
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Not to mention other preventative measures
Such as?
There's no way you can make those statements and ask those questions if you've paid attention to anything that went on politically over the last year. There's no way.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
"Yale Epidemiology Professor"
"Dr. Risch sounds like a quack"
"Dr. Risch sounds like a quack"
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:03 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
quote:
Not to mention other preventative measures
Such as?
India is legitimately about to execute the former head of their health service for not utilizing the treatment options we are discussing earlier.
FL and TX had to force their way through independently on the monoclonal antibodies front and pants the Biden administration for them to begrudgingly move ahead with that as a treatment.
The federal response on this could not have been more ineffective than it has been due to political operatives posing as scientists and corrupt back room operatives running the WHO, CDC and FDA for personal and corporate profit.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:05 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I don't see any mention in this paragraph of how this caused (rather than prevented) thousands of deaths. Because clearly, the vaccines have prevented thousands of deaths.
According to this study by Johns Hopkins. The jab has made little to no real difference in the number of deaths.
As of Wednesday, U.S. localities have reported 353,000 deaths since January 1, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
That surpasses the 352,000 deaths reported in 2020 in the 10 months following the first recorded domestic outbreaks of the disease in March.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:34 pm to Bass Tiger
Fauci down voted.... 
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:43 pm to Bass Tiger
The problem with a lot of doctors are they are not allowed to practice medicine when it comes to COVID. They are forced to follow their administrations COVID treatment guidelines who are forced to follow CDC guidelines if they want to get federal funds for treating COVID patients.
There is big money getting COVID patients on the vent and feeding them remdesivir. Getting them on the vent is feature for most hospitals not a flaw. It brings in good money for the stockholders.
There is big money getting COVID patients on the vent and feeding them remdesivir. Getting them on the vent is feature for most hospitals not a flaw. It brings in good money for the stockholders.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:47 pm to Big Scrub TX
[quote]Then Trump lost an election and the 3 vaccines entered into the Covid-19 pandemic equation. This was where the government controlled medical establishment took the reins of fighting the pandemic and the vaccines were going to be the primary approach to battling COVID-19. Dr Risch went on to explain the NIH and CDC are tied inextricably to the hip of Big Pharma and that's really where the issue lies. Big Pharma and insurance companies with their partners in the federal government have a plan to battle Covid-19, it's just not the best plan, hell, it ain't even a good plan..... in Dr Risch's professional opinion.
I don't see any mention in this paragraph of how this caused (rather than prevented) thousands of deaths. Because clearly, the vaccines have prevented thousands of deaths.
Dr. Risch sounds like a quack.
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A little help for BigDumb.....The authoritarians decided to go all in on the vaccine rather than treating people with known therapeutics as they were diagnosed with COVID-19. It's seems once this decision by the government controlled medical establishment was made to use the vaccine as the primary method to treat COVID-19 they also collectively suppressed nearly all evidence that effective therapeutics were available for those who were telling Big Pharma, the insurance companies and the federal government to stick the vaccines up their pooters. It was just a couple of weeks ago when Biden finally mentioned and acknowledged the effectiveness of monoclonal antibodies. Look at major chain drug stores like CVS denying customers a prescription for Ivermectin. Look, I don't think you're dumb but a night in a Holiday Inn Express wouldn't be a bad idea.
I don't see any mention in this paragraph of how this caused (rather than prevented) thousands of deaths. Because clearly, the vaccines have prevented thousands of deaths.
Dr. Risch sounds like a quack.
[/quote
A little help for BigDumb.....The authoritarians decided to go all in on the vaccine rather than treating people with known therapeutics as they were diagnosed with COVID-19. It's seems once this decision by the government controlled medical establishment was made to use the vaccine as the primary method to treat COVID-19 they also collectively suppressed nearly all evidence that effective therapeutics were available for those who were telling Big Pharma, the insurance companies and the federal government to stick the vaccines up their pooters. It was just a couple of weeks ago when Biden finally mentioned and acknowledged the effectiveness of monoclonal antibodies. Look at major chain drug stores like CVS denying customers a prescription for Ivermectin. Look, I don't think you're dumb but a night in a Holiday Inn Express wouldn't be a bad idea.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:48 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Dr. Risch sounds like a quack.
LOL, fricking know-it-all. You’re a legend in your own mind.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:51 pm to tide06
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India is legitimately about to execute the former head of their health service for not utilizing the treatment options we are discussing earlier.
FL and TX had to force their way through independently on the monoclonal antibodies front and pants the Biden administration for them to begrudgingly move ahead with that as a treatment.
The federal response on this could not have been more ineffective than it has been due to political operatives posing as scientists and corrupt back room operatives running the WHO, CDC and FDA for personal and corporate profit.
Many on this forum said from the onset of the pandemic that the American Marxists, anti Trumpers and NWO Globalist types would use the COVID-19 pandemic to rid themselves of the interloper named Trump. I think we're unequivocally vindicated.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:51 pm to Bass Tiger
Since most people have no ready access to HCQ, IVM, stock up on otc Quercetin (preferably with Bromelain), still available thru Amazon or drugstores, groceries, and health food stores. Stock up on it. Google the Zelenko protocols and follow, for use either as preventative or treatment. Must include zinc, vitamins D-3 and C (1000mg). If infected, get ahold of Z pack from doctor or walk in clinic, and steroid shot or pills. Some add low dose aspirin and melatonin.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:52 pm to GumboPot
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The problem with a lot of doctors are they are not allowed to practice medicine when it comes to COVID. They are forced to follow their administrations COVID treatment guidelines who are forced to follow CDC guidelines if they want to get federal funds for treating COVID patients.
There is big money getting COVID patients on the vent and feeding them remdesivir. Getting them on the vent is feature for most hospitals not a flaw. It brings in good money for the stockholders.
This ^^^ is what Dr Risch alluded to.
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