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re: WTF - Vindman will return to Dept. of the Army for until his Army War College class start

Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25782 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:28 pm to
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Of course they weren't court-martialed....but the story even in headlines has now changed twice from removal/transfer to fired and now back to removal.



It all means the same thing
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156500 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:30 pm to
Bottom-line you don't spy on your Commander-In-Chief. Any other person would not be clothed in the media's protection.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
29621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:30 pm to
Wonder how many push ups, and mountain climbers, he can do between now and then?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:32 pm to
The judicial process in the military, like in the civilian world, often takes time. They were never going to just drag the dude outside and shoot him.

I hope they reassign these asshats to Antarctica while they await their trials.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33144 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:32 pm to
I'm no military man (which I regret) but I thought court-martial was equivalent to charged with a violation of military law, and the subsequent court process? I guess I could look it up, but if I'm wrong I shall face the executioner.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37161 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:34 pm to
Not meant to derail, BT...but somebody should start a Dem Debate Thread for tonight's bloodletting.

It's make or break for Biden; he either goes all in on Bernie, or Bernie wins by default. If Joe strikes...he's vulnerable for the "where's Hunter" card. Could be epic tonight. I'd rather read the Forum's play by play, than watch that crap.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:34 pm to
That's correct. But it's far from the only form of judicial punishment military members are subject to. There's other stuff they can do that doesn't call for a Courts Martial.

These guys are definitely getting one though. They'll be tried for treason, I imagine.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:34 pm to
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He wasn’t kicked out of the Army. Just had his WH detail ended early.

They can’t prevent him from existing

lulz .... well then the Army has changed since my days because that is EXACTLY what would happen to this guy. His review would be scathing thus ensuring his chance to climb in rank would come to an end and he would be sent to a duty station in the Antarctic until he cried uncle.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156500 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:36 pm to
Is the whistle blower and cross-eyed Charlie still working in govt?
Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:38 pm to
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Is the whistle blower and cross-eyed Charlie still working in govt?


Whistle blower is back at CIA.

Not sure about Charlie
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:38 pm to
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He wasn’t kicked out of the Army. Just had his WH detail ended early.

They can’t prevent him from existing


Exactly.
The Clintons could.
Posted by MarkFromBuffalo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2018
624 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84704 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:41 pm to
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Vindman will return to Dept. of the Army for assignment until his Army War College class starts this summer.


If he’s facing any kind of charges, he ain’t going to AWC.

AWC grads are usually on the fast track to a star on their collar.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86831 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:41 pm to
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They can’t prevent him from existing



They could, but they'd have to go Stalinesqe soviet Union and that is a road we don't want to travel down.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:41 pm to
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Are you confused or upset? They weren't fired/court martialed, just removed from their positions at the White House.



Why wouldn't you be upset? They broke the fricking law and are unworthy of any sort of trust whatsoever.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156500 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:41 pm to
Yep. Whether he had a purple heart or not.

quote:

Keeping Families Together – Yevgeny and Alexander Vindman, Brothers in the Impeachment Coup Effort, Escorted Out of White House

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman and Lt. Col. Yevgeny Vindman, the twin brothers who work at the NSC & who participated in an attempted coup to remove President Trump, were both escorted from the White House and removed from their position “with no explanation” on Friday. No word yet on whether the White House kept their coats.

Hey, President Trump was previously accused of breaking up families at the border; well, this time he kept them together. Out!… Now let’s get rid of ICIG Michael Atkinson


Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
29621 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

lulz .... well then the Army has changed since my days because that is EXACTLY what would happen to this guy. His review would be scathing thus ensuring his chance to climb in rank would come to an end and he would be sent to a duty station in the Antarctic until he cried uncle.


If they have any smarts, they will resign now. It's over for them.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20456 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:44 pm to
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They should be taken to the gulag



Fixed!
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:46 pm to
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Just hope they strip them both of whatever security clearances they have as they clearly cannot be trusted with sensitive information.



That seems appropriate based upon what they did. Hard to understand how Soviet immigrants got in those positions anyhow?

If they lose their security clearances they will be retired, they can't serve without security access.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76485 posts
Posted on 2/7/20 at 5:47 pm to
Send him to the Eastern front.
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