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re: WSJ: Trump approves landmark nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia

Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17220 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

nuclear Saudi Arabia and a nuclear Turkey are about the only things that could stay Israel’s hand.

Stay Israel's hand... from doing what? Sitting back and waiting to get attacked constantly? They'd have been better off, as would we, if they'd nuked the shite out of Iran decades ago.

I understand you're an idiot, but do you understand Iran has been at war with us since 1979?

ETA: You get that Iran is Shia and KSA is Sunni, and they hate each other? The moving goalposts of the Muslims are epic. We only kill you because you're in the holy land of mecca. US moves everything out of KSA (which didn't exist back then), well F you, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and the UAE are our new targets!

But the Jews made that happen, for sure.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28303 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:46 pm to
So has Israel
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74622 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:47 pm to
The shah supported democracy
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30425 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Timothy McVeigh


Timothy McVeigh, the perpetrator of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, was executed by lethal injection on June 11, 2001.
Posted by South21
Member since Jul 2019
1893 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:48 pm to
I lived in Saudi for 4 years as well as visiting for the last 20. The young people are totally different and are moderate. Things are changing there... and will continue.. they want to live like the West. It will be slower than many would like but these old ways are dying there.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37302 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:25 pm to
I guess I must have been responding to the wrong point from the get go. But as far as the point to which I believed I was replying, ie ultimately that it was none other than Saudi Arabia that was most complicit (“Saudi Arabia” clearly meaning in an official capacity), and just look to the nationality of the bulk of the terrorists for the proof……..


……McVeigh would be a perfect counter, if I was correct about the insinuation of the previous Saudi A comment. Why? Well, (1) TM was indeed a terrorist, (2) if the nationality of a terrorist is reasonable proof that the government/leadership is complicit, then why wouldn’t the two situations be equivalent??
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37302 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:26 pm to
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What's your deal Jones? You're invoking Timothy McVeigh to make your point?

See my post immediately above for further explanation, playboy.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28303 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:27 pm to
What are you equivocating?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175339 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:37 pm to
As another poster pointed out for you Wahabbism has deep roots in Saudi Arabia

That was the movement that the 911 hijackers subscribed to

You know...the people that actually attacked Americans on American soil

Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7357 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:38 pm to
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We're going to look back at this moment and shake our heads.


That was Pakistan my dude.

We're long gone beyond that. They tried to give Iran a nuke a LONG time ago.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 11:39 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37302 posts
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:58 pm to
I’m not sure I’m reading you here. You’re asking for my license? Isn’t it back there on the bumper??



That’s the level confusion and misunderstanding or misinterp I’m afraid we’re heading for.

But to answer your question, I’m not equivocating anything. But I did explain what I was equating in a previous post. Whether it was responsive to Power’s comment or not, which I think it’s now clear that it was a case of misinterpretation or misunderstanding, on my part.
Posted by tigrewoulds21
Member since May 2026
40 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:09 am to
Republicans: Massie is a terrible person for associating with Islamists.

also Republicans: we are selling Islamists nukes.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14643 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:12 am to
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The west still doesn't fricking get it in regards to Islam. NEVER get into bed with it. NEVER give it arms... AND NEVER, frickING EVER, give them the ability to enrich uranium.

In a couple of decades, one of these muslim caliphates is going to deliver a bomb somewhere using more than likely stealth technology we sold them, because their leaders are "Such great guys".


This is the correct answer, all the way up to the end of the last sentence.

We aren't doing this because they are great guys. We're almost certainly doing this to benefit close friends or allies of Trump.

This could be a direct payoff to the Saudis for the $2Billion investment commitment that Affinity Partners got from the Saudis.

For those of you who do not know this, Affinity Partners is Trump's son-in-law.

Or, it could be related to IP3 International and Michael Flynn and Thomas Barrack.

Or all of the above.

But I don't believe that Trump is dumb enough to hand another group of Islamic weird-beards nukes for no reason.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30425 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:43 am to
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What a chickenshit position.


Not really.

Every relationship needs hard work, includes our beautiful country

Posted by MadQfrog
Rural VA
Member since May 2021
904 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:25 am to
Why are we helping Muzzies? Trump has lost his dam mind.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17830 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:31 am to
Imagine if Obama did this.

I’m convinced Jared Kushner is running foreign policy.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69681 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:32 am to
I think we all agree this is hypocritical/cynical given our Iran posture. But, hey, we hosted an ISIS headchopper in the White House because terrorists are cool when they are on our team.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7450 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:45 am to
This could be something that both parties agree is a shite idea and are able to come together to override a veto.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103559 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:08 am to
Trump just lost what support I had left for him

wtf is he thinking. Disaster of an administration
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
27275 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:14 am to
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I'm absolutely certain that Benjamin Netanyahu is pissed off about it.


That can't be true. Lots of people here said Trump is directed by Israel.
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