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re: WSJ article from Musk/Ramaswamy on DOGE plan to reform government
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:47 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Yay. More EOs!
Executive orders giving direction to the executive branch is their purpose.
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:47 pm to BuckyCheese
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Who thinks the USDA needs 100K employees?
USDA has the National Finance Center which cuts checks for govt
National Finance Center (dot gov)
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Payrolling more than 661,000 employees
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Do you have some other surefire brilliant alternative method to accomplish this
repeal 2 regs for every new one an agency wants to implement.
look to retire agency vets rather than fire a million people as part of your crash the economy trifecta
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:49 pm to Timeoday
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Have you thought about sending your thoughts and resume to Vivek and Elon? Surely you feel they could use your advice, don't ya think?
He’s not smart enough to work for Elon.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Just follow the APA properly if you use executive action.
Don't do chest beating aggro shite like Trump admin vol 1 and get embarrassed in court routinely and accomplish nothing.
That's exactly what DOGE sounds like. That's the issue.
Did you read the article?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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repeal 2 regs for every new one an agency wants to implement.
look to retire agency vets rather than fire a million people as part of your crash the economy trifecta
Did you read the article?
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:54 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Did you read the article?
Yes.
They're stretching and seem to be trying everything to avoid APA procedures.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:55 pm to Y.A. Tittle
i read the oped this morning, it’s been a long day i don’t remember it word for word
generally firing people just to fire them is not only distasteful but when combined with a major tarrif hike and a mass deportation youre guaranteed to frick up the economy, which doge is fully aware of. they say it will be short term and eventually prosperity will result. but what if they’re wrong? if the move fast and break things ideology doesn’t work, what’s the consequence to them? if they agreed to spend their rest of their lives in jail or something in that case then go ahead and give it a shot.
generally firing people just to fire them is not only distasteful but when combined with a major tarrif hike and a mass deportation youre guaranteed to frick up the economy, which doge is fully aware of. they say it will be short term and eventually prosperity will result. but what if they’re wrong? if the move fast and break things ideology doesn’t work, what’s the consequence to them? if they agreed to spend their rest of their lives in jail or something in that case then go ahead and give it a shot.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They're stretching and seem to be trying everything to avoid APA procedures.
Eh, I read it as though they are exploring every possible alternative.
Of course, I don’t buy the notion that there is only one.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:57 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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generally firing people just to fire them is not only distasteful
Layoffs happen all the time.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:00 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Layoffs happen all the time.
generally layoffs aren’t a we’re firing you for ideological purposes
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:00 pm to BuckyCheese
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The US Dept of Ag has 100K employees.
Fun fact about Iowa. Iowa has 99 counties. Each county has a USDA Service Center with one county having two, so 100 service centers that have FSA and NRCS offices with some of them having Rural Development staff. The USDA is one of the "conservative" agencies that actually does do work for rural America.
Iowa and it's farmers vote straight Red. Not a good idea to be cutting from them. Same goes for Trump's rural base that came out for him. That sea of red counties across the country.
Abraham Lincoln established the USDA.
Deep cuts for the departments that spy on us and manipulate things, the Deep State. Tear them down. But there are actually some agencies that do work for the people. I'd put the USDA on that list.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:02 pm to SoDakHawk
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Iowa and it's farmers vote straight Red. Not a good idea to be cutting from them. Same goes for Trump's rural base that came out for him. That sea of red counties across the country.
it’s illegal to only fire the liberals
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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generally layoffs aren’t a we’re firing you for ideological purposes
Who is doing that?
Getting rid of government waste and shuttering unnecessary government offices and departments is not ideological.
The Chevron ruling demands it.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:08 pm to SoDakHawk
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Fun fact about Iowa. Iowa has 99 counties. Each county has a USDA Service Center with one county having two, so 100 service centers that have FSA and NRCS offices with some of them having Rural Development staff. The USDA is one of the "conservative" agencies that actually does do work for rural America.
Iowa and it's farmers vote straight Red. Not a good idea to be cutting from them. Same goes for Trump's rural base that came out for him. That sea of red counties across the country.
If bullshite like this is the only thing keeping you from voting for the current batch of Democrats, then good luck.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:10 pm to Decatur
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Confirms my suspicions that this won’t be an actual government agency.
You’re a regular Sherlock Holmes. Well done.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:10 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
reducing waste is one thing
firing 1.5 million people is something else
firing 1.5 million people is something else
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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generally layoffs aren’t a we’re firing you for ideological purposes
that isn’t what this is. Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
How many superfluous government employees is acceptable?
I say zero.
They are also talking about very generous severance packages, 18-24 months.
I say zero.
They are also talking about very generous severance packages, 18-24 months.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:22 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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How many superfluous government employees is acceptable?
that’s a borderline impossible question to answer and even if it weren’t you’re still going to royally frick up the economy, the severance only delays it.
doge says its short term pain for long term prosperity so again i ask what if they’re wrong? what’s the consequence to them?
this is happening at the same time as the tarrifs and the mass deportations, and you say the left overreaches?
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