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World's Smartest Man Banned From FB

Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:20 pm
TL;DR at bottom.

Chris Langan has an IQ of around 190, which would put him well above "1 in a million" statistically. While it is probably fair to say that "smartest man in the world" is an exaggeration, he is definitely "up there" from a pure grey matter perspective. He dropped out of HS despite scoring a perfect 1600 on the SAT. He went to college for a while but decided "I was far smarter than my professors and got bored." He decided that self-learning was the way to go and taught himself math, physics and philosophy and even has his own theory of the universe he calls the CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe). He reads Immanuel Kant and quantum physics textbooks like they are romance novels.

Funny thing is that 20 years ago I used to be on one of his mailing list groups and got into a few arguments with him over his philosophical theory. He was always an a-hole who talked down to everyone. He is very bright, I don't deny that, but he's a weirdo.

Chris Langan has never been an academic and has always held menial jobs. For years he was a bar bouncer and an amateur bodybuilder. Since then, he has decided to make money by going on game shows (he won a couple hundred grand on one of them a few years ago).

Anyway, he made a FB post discussing Koko the gorilla's death. He said experts estimate Koko's IQ to have been between 75 and 95. He went on to say the following:

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According to the 30 point rule of psychometrics (as proposed by pioneering psychometrician Leta Hollingworth) Koko's pioneering thought would have been all but incomprehensible to nearly half of the population of Somalia (IQ 68). Yet the nations of Europe and North America are being flooded with millions of Somali refugees who are not (initially) kept in cages despite what appears to be the world's highest rate of violent crime.

Obviously, this raises the question: Why is western civilization not admitting gorillas? They, too, are from Africa and probably have a group mean IQ at least equal to that of Somalia. In addition, they have [sic] peaceful and environmentally friendly creatures, commit far less violent crime than Somalis, and with minor modifications to Western education systems, can easily be taught language.

Why are these gentle creatures, who have been threatened with genocide for decades, not being taken in by Western nations as refugees despite the indisputable fact that they are teetering on the edge of extinction in their homelands?

Can this be considered humane or compassionate? What in the world is going on here?

(Some of you might be wondering if this is a joke. The truth is I am not quite sure...).


(For reference, the "30 point rule" states that people with 30 IQ points on other people cannot effectively communicate with them. An average person of 100 IQ has a hard time talking to a "handicapped" person of IQ 70. Likewise a man of 130 IQ will have a hard time with a 100 IQ man. I don't really believe it, though, because it is an obvious logical fallacy).




TL;DR - Smart dude says Europe and America should admit gorillas and not people from Somalia because gorillas are at least as smart and also endangered (and thus need our help). Facebook banned him for the post.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:22 pm to
A forum of nothing but raw emotion like FB is no place for pure logic.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:22 pm to
Really puts a lot of shite in perspective when you realize a freaking Gorilla had an IQ 20 points higher than the average Somalian.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7399 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:23 pm to
Higher than Maxine Waters no doubt
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48918 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:24 pm to
We are told that genetic intelligence has zero influence on social outcomes, greatest denial of science in world history
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:25 pm to
Women and minorities' feelings are more important than science.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18405 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:26 pm to
Smartest man in the world compared black people to gorillas?

His overall argument is pretty weak. People communicate and function just fine with those on a lower intelligence scale than them. Low IQ people can perform tasks that contribute to society and violence is not endemic to a specific race, ethnicity, or culture - Somalis are violent due to political and social issues stemming from long ago. I’m not saying Europe should let them in as welcomed as immigrants, but a 68 IQ Somali can hammer a nail. A gorilla would disrupt the entire operation.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48918 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

violence is not endemic to a specific race, ethnicity, or culture


Really???? So let’s take black inner city culture in the United States vs say rural Japanese culture?

There’s no correlation there?

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Why are these gentle creatures, who have been threatened with genocide for decades, not being taken in by Western nations as refugees despite the indisputable fact that they are teetering on the edge of extinction in their homelands?


LSU should do some cutting edge experimentation and adopt one to train as a nose tackle. If I were the opposing center I'd be intimidated as hell.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101404 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:30 pm to
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an IQ of around 190,


Damn, Otto was so close.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5712 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:30 pm to
Interesting persective. If we are just the random product of evolution, why do we consider humans as some sort of tier above animals, some of which may be more intelligent than certain populations of humans? For that matter, what is the rationale that all people are “equal”? If certain populations behave like animals, why shouldn’t we treat them as such?

This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 2:31 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50164 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:31 pm to
I found his post to be thought-provoking.

I don't fall into the camp of people who worship people who score very high on IQ tests though.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41676 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Really???? So let’s take black inner city culture in the United States vs say rural Japanese culture?

There’s no correlation there?
Correlation is not the same as causation.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50164 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

why do we consider humans as some sort of tier above animals, some of which may be more intelligent than certain populations of humans


So we don't feel guilty eating them.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:32 pm to
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I don't fall into the camp of people who worship people who score very high on IQ tests though.


Madam, I believe you.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48918 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:33 pm to
There’s no arguing with the willfully stupid
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

So we don't feel guilty eating them.


You eat gorillas?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17031 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

I’m not saying Europe should let them in as welcomed as immigrants, but a 68 IQ Somali can hammer a nail. A gorilla would disrupt the entire operation.


I agree. IQ tests must be looked at in the context of the culture. It is fair to compare IQ's between people raised in the same society, but it isn't fair to compare apples to oranges. For instance, a native hunter-gatherer from the rain forest who has never had outside contact with other humans (and certainly never read a book or seen a math equation) will have no idea HOW to take an IQ test, no matter his intelligence level. I don't care if the test is "culture-fair," it's still a totally new concept to these people.

That said, there is some relevance to IQ, for sure. It does correlate pretty highly with life outcomes (it correlates more than even education).
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:36 pm to
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taught himself math, physics and philosophy


Nope, he isn't the smartest man in the world. Science provides knowledge to the world, not philosophy.
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