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World's Smartest Man Banned From FB
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:20 pm
TL;DR at bottom.
Chris Langan has an IQ of around 190, which would put him well above "1 in a million" statistically. While it is probably fair to say that "smartest man in the world" is an exaggeration, he is definitely "up there" from a pure grey matter perspective. He dropped out of HS despite scoring a perfect 1600 on the SAT. He went to college for a while but decided "I was far smarter than my professors and got bored." He decided that self-learning was the way to go and taught himself math, physics and philosophy and even has his own theory of the universe he calls the CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe). He reads Immanuel Kant and quantum physics textbooks like they are romance novels.
Funny thing is that 20 years ago I used to be on one of his mailing list groups and got into a few arguments with him over his philosophical theory. He was always an a-hole who talked down to everyone. He is very bright, I don't deny that, but he's a weirdo.
Chris Langan has never been an academic and has always held menial jobs. For years he was a bar bouncer and an amateur bodybuilder. Since then, he has decided to make money by going on game shows (he won a couple hundred grand on one of them a few years ago).
Anyway, he made a FB post discussing Koko the gorilla's death. He said experts estimate Koko's IQ to have been between 75 and 95. He went on to say the following:
(For reference, the "30 point rule" states that people with 30 IQ points on other people cannot effectively communicate with them. An average person of 100 IQ has a hard time talking to a "handicapped" person of IQ 70. Likewise a man of 130 IQ will have a hard time with a 100 IQ man. I don't really believe it, though, because it is an obvious logical fallacy).
TL;DR - Smart dude says Europe and America should admit gorillas and not people from Somalia because gorillas are at least as smart and also endangered (and thus need our help). Facebook banned him for the post.
Chris Langan has an IQ of around 190, which would put him well above "1 in a million" statistically. While it is probably fair to say that "smartest man in the world" is an exaggeration, he is definitely "up there" from a pure grey matter perspective. He dropped out of HS despite scoring a perfect 1600 on the SAT. He went to college for a while but decided "I was far smarter than my professors and got bored." He decided that self-learning was the way to go and taught himself math, physics and philosophy and even has his own theory of the universe he calls the CTMU (Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe). He reads Immanuel Kant and quantum physics textbooks like they are romance novels.
Funny thing is that 20 years ago I used to be on one of his mailing list groups and got into a few arguments with him over his philosophical theory. He was always an a-hole who talked down to everyone. He is very bright, I don't deny that, but he's a weirdo.
Chris Langan has never been an academic and has always held menial jobs. For years he was a bar bouncer and an amateur bodybuilder. Since then, he has decided to make money by going on game shows (he won a couple hundred grand on one of them a few years ago).
Anyway, he made a FB post discussing Koko the gorilla's death. He said experts estimate Koko's IQ to have been between 75 and 95. He went on to say the following:
quote:
According to the 30 point rule of psychometrics (as proposed by pioneering psychometrician Leta Hollingworth) Koko's pioneering thought would have been all but incomprehensible to nearly half of the population of Somalia (IQ 68). Yet the nations of Europe and North America are being flooded with millions of Somali refugees who are not (initially) kept in cages despite what appears to be the world's highest rate of violent crime.
Obviously, this raises the question: Why is western civilization not admitting gorillas? They, too, are from Africa and probably have a group mean IQ at least equal to that of Somalia. In addition, they have [sic] peaceful and environmentally friendly creatures, commit far less violent crime than Somalis, and with minor modifications to Western education systems, can easily be taught language.
Why are these gentle creatures, who have been threatened with genocide for decades, not being taken in by Western nations as refugees despite the indisputable fact that they are teetering on the edge of extinction in their homelands?
Can this be considered humane or compassionate? What in the world is going on here?
(Some of you might be wondering if this is a joke. The truth is I am not quite sure...).
(For reference, the "30 point rule" states that people with 30 IQ points on other people cannot effectively communicate with them. An average person of 100 IQ has a hard time talking to a "handicapped" person of IQ 70. Likewise a man of 130 IQ will have a hard time with a 100 IQ man. I don't really believe it, though, because it is an obvious logical fallacy).
TL;DR - Smart dude says Europe and America should admit gorillas and not people from Somalia because gorillas are at least as smart and also endangered (and thus need our help). Facebook banned him for the post.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:22 pm to AUstar
A forum of nothing but raw emotion like FB is no place for pure logic.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:22 pm to AUstar
Really puts a lot of shite in perspective when you realize a freaking Gorilla had an IQ 20 points higher than the average Somalian.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:23 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
Higher than Maxine Waters no doubt
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:24 pm to LuckyTiger
We are told that genetic intelligence has zero influence on social outcomes, greatest denial of science in world history
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:25 pm to Strannix
Women and minorities' feelings are more important than science.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:26 pm to AUstar
Smartest man in the world compared black people to gorillas?
His overall argument is pretty weak. People communicate and function just fine with those on a lower intelligence scale than them. Low IQ people can perform tasks that contribute to society and violence is not endemic to a specific race, ethnicity, or culture - Somalis are violent due to political and social issues stemming from long ago. I’m not saying Europe should let them in as welcomed as immigrants, but a 68 IQ Somali can hammer a nail. A gorilla would disrupt the entire operation.
His overall argument is pretty weak. People communicate and function just fine with those on a lower intelligence scale than them. Low IQ people can perform tasks that contribute to society and violence is not endemic to a specific race, ethnicity, or culture - Somalis are violent due to political and social issues stemming from long ago. I’m not saying Europe should let them in as welcomed as immigrants, but a 68 IQ Somali can hammer a nail. A gorilla would disrupt the entire operation.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:28 pm to StringedInstruments
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violence is not endemic to a specific race, ethnicity, or culture
Really???? So let’s take black inner city culture in the United States vs say rural Japanese culture?
There’s no correlation there?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:28 pm to AUstar
quote:
Why are these gentle creatures, who have been threatened with genocide for decades, not being taken in by Western nations as refugees despite the indisputable fact that they are teetering on the edge of extinction in their homelands?
LSU should do some cutting edge experimentation and adopt one to train as a nose tackle. If I were the opposing center I'd be intimidated as hell.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:30 pm to AUstar
quote:
an IQ of around 190,
Damn, Otto was so close.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:30 pm to AUstar
Interesting persective. If we are just the random product of evolution, why do we consider humans as some sort of tier above animals, some of which may be more intelligent than certain populations of humans? For that matter, what is the rationale that all people are “equal”? If certain populations behave like animals, why shouldn’t we treat them as such?
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:31 pm to AUstar
I found his post to be thought-provoking.
I don't fall into the camp of people who worship people who score very high on IQ tests though.
I don't fall into the camp of people who worship people who score very high on IQ tests though.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:31 pm to Strannix
quote:Correlation is not the same as causation.
Really???? So let’s take black inner city culture in the United States vs say rural Japanese culture?
There’s no correlation there?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:32 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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why do we consider humans as some sort of tier above animals, some of which may be more intelligent than certain populations of humans
So we don't feel guilty eating them.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:32 pm to 4cubbies
quote:
I don't fall into the camp of people who worship people who score very high on IQ tests though.
Madam, I believe you.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:33 pm to FooManChoo
There’s no arguing with the willfully stupid
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:33 pm to 4cubbies
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So we don't feel guilty eating them.
You eat gorillas?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:34 pm to StringedInstruments
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I’m not saying Europe should let them in as welcomed as immigrants, but a 68 IQ Somali can hammer a nail. A gorilla would disrupt the entire operation.
I agree. IQ tests must be looked at in the context of the culture. It is fair to compare IQ's between people raised in the same society, but it isn't fair to compare apples to oranges. For instance, a native hunter-gatherer from the rain forest who has never had outside contact with other humans (and certainly never read a book or seen a math equation) will have no idea HOW to take an IQ test, no matter his intelligence level. I don't care if the test is "culture-fair," it's still a totally new concept to these people.
That said, there is some relevance to IQ, for sure. It does correlate pretty highly with life outcomes (it correlates more than even education).
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:36 pm to AUstar
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taught himself math, physics and philosophy
Nope, he isn't the smartest man in the world. Science provides knowledge to the world, not philosophy.
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