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re: World’s leading virologist says don’t take jab as it’s not a vaccine!
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:27 am to Jorts R Us
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:27 am to Jorts R Us
quote:
'm not the OP. I'm trying to tell you how you can preview a link on mobile. If you prefer to bitch, have at it.
Sorry... my abrasive comment wasn't meant for you. I'm just being a whiny bitch about a minor thing.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:27 am to arcalades
quote:Can a piece of cloth stop a virus?
Can you see a virus?
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:28 am to Little Trump
ALL links are blind links. I can say a link is going anywhere,
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:29 am to Little Trump
So don’t get one then.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:29 am to AURaptor
Can someone explain to me how in the hell I get 4 down votes for simply posting a statement of fact?
Some of you might want to clear your porn hub viruses off your computers.
Some of you might want to clear your porn hub viruses off your computers.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 11:54 am to AURaptor
Everyone has to assess their risks, but it’s not a traditional vaccine. It does statistically provide protection, which means you can still get Covid, but chances are you will not die, which is like getting Covid, statistically..... But, the vaccine does not have immunity, none.... you can still get Covid, after 2 jabs, talk about needing a third, later this year. Other vaccines, you are immune. People don’t get Polio any more, or measles if they’ve been vaccinated, they are immune.... Your immune system remembers, and it’s taken out before host is even aware. They don’t get sick, but barely survived Polio, they are immune.....in the first place. You can still get Covid and die after completing all shots, there’s a huge difference....
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:11 pm to Floating Change Up
Or just post the fricking link address twice.
I wish the pt users were a quarter as sharp as the rest of the boards.
I wish the pt users were a quarter as sharp as the rest of the boards.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:11 pm to Little Trump
The Nobel guy is a "herbal remedy" fan and one of the anti-vacc "it causes autism" guys.
Montagnier And His Controversies
Montagnier is a joint recipient with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the HIV virus that causes AIDS. Along with his April 2020 remarks about the SARS-CoV-2 virus originating from a lab, he received a lot of criticism for his research on finding new ways to detect viral infections merely two years after being lauded with the Nobel. His research was based on the tenets of homeopathy which surprised many attendees who heard him at the Lindau Nobel Laureate Meeting held in June 2010 where he unveiled his findings. Members of the modern medicine fraternity felt that Montagnier was giving a platform to homeopathy which so far continues to be considered a traditional medicine technique. This is not the first time Montagnier has expressed his views against vaccination. In 2012, he was a keynote speaker at an event held by AutismOne. This group is known to propel the theory that vaccination causes autism among children. Was His Interview Factually Correct? In the interview, Montagnier repeatedly mentions that the vaccine would lead to the creation of variants as well as lead to a phenomenon called antibody-dependent enhancement.
More People Than Other Vaccines Indian virologist and member of the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation, Dr. Gagandeep Kang tweeted about Montagnier's claims. Fact-checking website FactChecker contacted Dr. T. Jacob John, a virologist from India as well as W Ian Lipkin, John Snow Professor of Epidemiology and professor of Neurology and Pathology at Columbia University, USA to verify Montagnier's claims. Addressing the claim that vaccines should not be given during a pandemic, Dr John stated that have been effective against pandemic influenza A H1N1, influenza A H3N2, endemic influenza B viruses, smallpox, rinderpest and even polio. "We use vaccines against measles, rubella, mumps, varicella (chickenpox), hepatitis A, hepatitis B, Rotaviruses, Japanese encephalitis and human papilloma viruses that cause cancer of uterine cervix — none of these diseases have turned around and caused any problem whatsoever. These vaccines are routinely used in many countries in a wide age range. Influenza vaccines have been in use since 1945 and vaccines save hundreds of thousands of lives of young pre-school children, senior citizens and pregnant women every year. Vaccines have never posed the kind of risks claimed in the discredited news item," John stated. Lipkin chose to address and explain antibody-mediated enhancement. "Antibodies that do not neutralise a virus can make things worse by promoting uptake of the virus into uninfected cells. This mechanism is known as antibody mediated enhancement," Lipkin responded to FactChecker via email. "Vaccines should not cause antibody mediated enhancement because they are specifically designed to elicit neutralizing antibodies (as well as protective T cell responses). Evolution will favor the survival of viruses that are not neutralized. However, rather than to conclude that this is a reason not to use vaccines, most scientists including me, would conclude that this is the best argument for rapidly vaccinating everyone at risk for infection with the best available vaccines so that SARS-CoV-2 is denied the opportunity to develop resistance.
I'm sorry to see that Prof Montaigner and I disagree on these points," he added. Claim Review
Link to article - boomlive -
LINK
Montagnier And His Controversies
Montagnier is a joint recipient with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the HIV virus that causes AIDS. Along with his April 2020 remarks about the SARS-CoV-2 virus originating from a lab, he received a lot of criticism for his research on finding new ways to detect viral infections merely two years after being lauded with the Nobel. His research was based on the tenets of homeopathy which surprised many attendees who heard him at the Lindau Nobel Laureate Meeting held in June 2010 where he unveiled his findings. Members of the modern medicine fraternity felt that Montagnier was giving a platform to homeopathy which so far continues to be considered a traditional medicine technique. This is not the first time Montagnier has expressed his views against vaccination. In 2012, he was a keynote speaker at an event held by AutismOne. This group is known to propel the theory that vaccination causes autism among children. Was His Interview Factually Correct? In the interview, Montagnier repeatedly mentions that the vaccine would lead to the creation of variants as well as lead to a phenomenon called antibody-dependent enhancement.
More People Than Other Vaccines Indian virologist and member of the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation, Dr. Gagandeep Kang tweeted about Montagnier's claims. Fact-checking website FactChecker contacted Dr. T. Jacob John, a virologist from India as well as W Ian Lipkin, John Snow Professor of Epidemiology and professor of Neurology and Pathology at Columbia University, USA to verify Montagnier's claims. Addressing the claim that vaccines should not be given during a pandemic, Dr John stated that have been effective against pandemic influenza A H1N1, influenza A H3N2, endemic influenza B viruses, smallpox, rinderpest and even polio. "We use vaccines against measles, rubella, mumps, varicella (chickenpox), hepatitis A, hepatitis B, Rotaviruses, Japanese encephalitis and human papilloma viruses that cause cancer of uterine cervix — none of these diseases have turned around and caused any problem whatsoever. These vaccines are routinely used in many countries in a wide age range. Influenza vaccines have been in use since 1945 and vaccines save hundreds of thousands of lives of young pre-school children, senior citizens and pregnant women every year. Vaccines have never posed the kind of risks claimed in the discredited news item," John stated. Lipkin chose to address and explain antibody-mediated enhancement. "Antibodies that do not neutralise a virus can make things worse by promoting uptake of the virus into uninfected cells. This mechanism is known as antibody mediated enhancement," Lipkin responded to FactChecker via email. "Vaccines should not cause antibody mediated enhancement because they are specifically designed to elicit neutralizing antibodies (as well as protective T cell responses). Evolution will favor the survival of viruses that are not neutralized. However, rather than to conclude that this is a reason not to use vaccines, most scientists including me, would conclude that this is the best argument for rapidly vaccinating everyone at risk for infection with the best available vaccines so that SARS-CoV-2 is denied the opportunity to develop resistance.
I'm sorry to see that Prof Montaigner and I disagree on these points," he added. Claim Review
Link to article - boomlive -
LINK
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:23 pm to Little Trump
The virus is reported to cause cases of reduced male fertility, low testosterone, weak and disfigured sperm, and reduced sperm counts. There are many reports of disruption of the monthly cycle in females and bleeding in post-menopausal females. Link this with the report from a new study that finds the vaccines to concentrate in the ovaries.
Population control??
Tell the ladies that I'm not taking the shot in case my seed is needed to repopulate the world.
Population control??
Tell the ladies that I'm not taking the shot in case my seed is needed to repopulate the world.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:33 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:This is absolutely wrong. People who get the measles vaccine have a 3% chance of getting the Measles. People who get the Mumps vaccine have a 12% chance of getting Mumps. Shingles vaccine still allows for an 11% chance of getting shingles. People who get the Moderna COVID vaccine have a 4-6% chance of getting COVID. It is a vaccine and is in line with regards to efficacy with many other vaccines.
Other vaccines, you are immune
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:36 pm to Little Trump
quote:The nice thing about science is we don't need to take the opinion of an individual when the facts are available for our own examination.
Professor Luc Montagnier, winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine explains ADE, says spikes are occurring in vaccinated globally.
(Deaths are a trailing indicator, but worth a look)
Some other countries with growing vaccinated populations (albeit with a higher % using the less effective AZ vaccine)
Meanwhile we can examine countries like Canada lagging in vaccinating their populations
or Malaysia where <5% are vaccinated
So regarding "spikes occurring in vaccinated globally," it seems Professor Luc Montagnier's opinion does not align with the facts.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:44 pm to Little Trump
quote:
Friggin Twitter blind link but it’s legit from world’s leading virologist that discovered HIV
Says it’s well known the dangers of vaccines
This is the same guy who thinks water has memory and serial dilution makes no matter. He's lost his mind in his old age.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 12:49 pm to CamdenTiger
That the current shots as they exist today aren’t actual vaccines is something I have said myself. I was commenting on the whole “blind link“ nonsense. I can see that it is from Twitter. I don’t know what the fuss is, though I will admit not being entirely the most tech savvy.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:04 pm to Eurocat
quote:My son contracted Asperger's Syndrome from an MMR vaccine at 5 years old. Was talking fine before, barely said a word for almost 2 years after. So FU with your tinfoil hat implications of people who believe vaccines aren't always safe.
The Nobel guy is a "herbal remedy" fan and one of the anti-vacc "it causes autism" guys.
The idea of vaccines is right. But it falls into the shitter when greedy bigpharma companies don't care about hurting people in order to max out profits.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:13 pm to PurpleandGeauld
quote:
My son contracted Asperger's Syndrome from an MMR vaccine at 5 years old. Was talking fine before, barely said a word for almost 2 years after. So FU with your tinfoil hat implications of people who believe vaccines aren't always safe.
Your son was not diagnosed with Asperger's 2 years ago. It hasn't been a diagnosis for 8 years.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:15 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:Where in Hell is this crap coming from?
.... But, the vaccine does not have immunity, none....
The mRNA versions confer some of the best immunity ever afforded by vaccines.
Meanwhile, J&J and AZ are STANDARD TRADITIONAL VACCINATIONS
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:17 pm to PurpleandGeauld
quote:How did they do this?
But it falls into the shitter when greedy bigpharma companies don't care about hurting people in order to max out profits.
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:22 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
quote:
Can someone explain it to me like I'm Maxine Waters?
The guy who discovered HIV thinks it’s a bad idea to vaccinate people in a pandemic because it created artificial selection for new variants.
What he doesn’t explain is why natural antibodies don’t do that as well.
His position makes sense as someone who’s studied HIV for 35 years. HIV is constantly evolving variants that don’t respond to the new drugs. Which is why they take a cocktail and often change or rotate the medications. But he also isn’t telling people not to take their medications either.
As someone pointed out, his statement that deaths/cases are spiking behind vaccination rates doesn’t seem to be supported.
And yes that is him. And yea that is a good translation.
This post was edited on 6/1/21 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/1/21 at 1:56 pm to blackrose890
quote:You didn't read what I said correctly. When he was 5, he was given an MMR vaccine, after which he barely talked at all for a period of 2 years. Asperger's isn't an official designation anymore, but people still say it.
Your son was not diagnosed with Asperger's 2 years ago. It hasn't been a diagnosis for 8 years.
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