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re: Workers crying about being laid off is really an elitist attitude

Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:16 am to
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:16 am to
Learn to drill!
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
12728 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:17 am to
Posted by lionscoach
Clemson SC
Member since Aug 2013
93 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:17 am to
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Blow up the VA and the Social Security Admin and it’s a different story


People who are not doing their job correctly are being fired. Cuts must be made in many departments, this is a fact. I have worked with the VA. These mid level employees are not working they are getting paid to do almost nothing. After 10 or 15 years of working you do not deserve to get a paycheck, watching others work. "I paid my dues" should never exist. If you want to get paid do your work. A very simple concept.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10235 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:21 am to
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Just reckless dumbassery.


Who would have thought that a well established pattern of reckless dumbassery would have led to someone becoming the richest man on Earth? Self-made, at that.

I know that has to be the case, because an anonymous poster on TigerDroppings says so. And his methods and accomplishments are surely greater than the guy we're discussing, a self-made billionaire.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
3959 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:23 am to
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do it by being radical.


You misspelled reckless.

Time will tell - in short order - how effective the abrupt surprise mass firings and gutting essential agencies are. Cuts needed to be made, everyone agrees on that no matter if left, right, or center. Cuts needed to be made more thoughtfully and carefully. Slick Willy Clinton managed to shrink the government workforce by 420,000 during his term. It can be done without being reckless.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10235 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:23 am to
You say this:

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That’s a deflection from what the issue really is.


But then in the next sentence you say this:

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Musk and his lil kid geeks don’t have a clue what most federal job responsibilities even are.


Wasn't that exactly the question asked in the email?

"What is it you do at your job? Please give me a short list of five tasks that you performed recently."

It's either relevant or it's not. You can't have it both ways.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26795 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:27 am to
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You misspelled reckless.

Time will tell


As you said, time will tell if it's reckless or radical.

I'm betting we'll be just fine.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4352 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:33 am to
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The school where I work is closing at the end of the school year due to low enrollment


This is because the past 20 years of political leadership in this country makes it difficult to have more than 1 or 2 kids.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
3959 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:44 am to
The email did not say
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"What is it you do at your job? Please give me a short list of five tasks that you performed recently."


The email said
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“Please reply to this email with approx. 5 bullets of what you accomplished this week and cc your manager,”


It did not ask the employees to list what their job requirements were. It asks what they accomplished. It’s short sighted.




Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
21581 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:46 am to
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This has never been done in the government, at least not for a long period of time.


Doesn't anyone in here remember the days of Marvin Runyon?

He laid off 7,000 in one day at the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), then moved on to lay off 23,000 as the Postmaster General at his next gig.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27292 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:50 am to
Fook these people.

I got laid off in 2008, due to the global economic crisis, my pay went from 72k a year to (unemployment) $1,600 per month minus taxes.

I had a mortgage, new baby, wife, two cars and was barely getting by.

That's something to cry about, when you have other people relying on your salary.

And yes, in 2008 72K would pay for all that
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1151 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:51 am to
Do you really think that someone is going to evaluate each email to determine if the employee was doing their job? Or can you believe that this is just a way to see which employee does not really exist or who feels that they are so special that they can refuse to respond? Failure to respond puts the employee into a category of being more carefully evaluated.

They are dealing with the federal civil service. They can't just cut people on a whim but if they refuse to do what the supervisor asks, they can probably be terminated. And if you have to cut, you want to cut the people who won't take instructions first.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19274 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:53 am to
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They have crazy PTO policy and healthcare/pension. Average fed salary is also more than 2x average private sector salary


I really don't understand the narrative people are tying to push with this?

1. Government workers no longer get pensions
2. Average salary is lazy and dishonest. If you take my salary and Elon Musks salary and get an average how will that look?
I can guarantee you that people working at the Little Rock Air Force base aren't routinely pulling in 100k
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36865 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:54 am to
Saw a scroll on the TV that Starbucks is having a big layoff. Where is the outrage?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17647 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:55 am to
I love watching you progstains consumed by your hatred and lashing out, stupidly I might add.

I could lose my job today...and have another by Monday.

Why? Because I have value in what I bring to the table that others do not offer.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26795 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:56 am to
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1. Government workers no longer get pensions


FEDERAL government workers get a pension, it's just not generous. I think it's part of a retirement, it's not enough on its own.

If people found out the retirements their local government workers sometimes get they'd be buying pitchforks.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
10823 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:59 am to
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He did the same thing with Twitter. Cut 80% of the workforce right off the bat. And yeah, they did have to build back up over 1-2 years, but they are now back to $1.2 Billion in revenue, close to the company's all time high of $1.4 Billion, with a hugely streamlined labor force.



These government crybabies can't understand this and this concept is foreign to them because they are used to such bloat and waste. The ONLY way to do this is with a sledgehammer. A 'scalpel' approach would not work and would not accomplish anything. Nobody on here has been as critical of Trump as I have over the last several years but this is the right approach and was way overdue.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
1644 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:07 am to
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Gutting essential agencies.


Gutting the agency or the waste within it?


Bureaucrats are just as capable of being able to wait on tables, stock shelves and clean toilets.

Just like Biden told the miners to learn how to code, perhaps Trump can tell bureaucrats to learn how to weld.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
3959 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:11 am to
Musk has no authority

Musk is not their supervisor.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19274 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:12 am to
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I love watching you progstains consumed by your hatred and lashing out, stupidly I might add.

What are you even talking about?

I'm just pointin out that if people in Arkansas were to look at salaries at people California they'd be shocked at the differnce. Using an average is just lazy.
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