re: Women in Combat Arms: The Master Thread

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“It doesn’t do anything to further our capacity as war fighters,” Mr. Hunter said of adding women in direct land combat roles. “It doesn’t do anything to make us more effective or efficient at getting the job done and killing our enemies and protecting our allies. It’s just a distraction. It’s not like there are thousands of women getting into the infantry now. It will never be that way.”

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Military needs a counterrevolution

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MrCarton

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I see this one got dug up. Pretty comprehensive. I know what DoD policy is. But this one is going to eventually bite us in the butt. Surprised that SecDef did not reverse this one from POTUS44.

I love this thread

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I know what DoD policy is. But this one is going to eventually bite us in the butt.

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IMHO, the top levels of our military leadership are very devoted to the idea that a nation like the USA must have a military that reflects the nation's civilian society/culture as much as possible.

The underlying reasoning for this is to ensure that the nation's civilians feel a connection with their military forces and veterans. If the military reflects society, that nexus is closer. This is deemed to be very important because of our Vietnam experience when the nexus was perceived to be destroyed or weakened. That was a bad time for military people and veterans seeking to "fit in" to civilian society and were rejected or made to feel discouraged. As such, in the nation's long-term military planning and shaping of the military, there is a strong desire to make policy that supports this notion that the military must reflect our civilian society/culture.

I guess you could say that the Long Term Planning Gurus don't want to repeat the ugly years of when our military folks returning from Vietnam were abused and insulted by our civilian society.

IMHO, it was a Leftist political infiltration of our civilian society that created that animosity for our vets. It was not some organic weakening of the military/civilian nexus. As such, if we proceed under the presumption that it was caused by organic influences and not external Leftist political action, we may not succeed in preserving this nexus, because, as soon as the political Left deems it politically advantageous, they can recreate the Vietnam Era animosity at any future point.

So long as the US military is serving Globalist political ends, there will probably be no reason for the political Left to attack the nexus between our civilian society/culture and our military.

Should the US military ever be perceived as an active political threat to the Globalist paradigm, we will see a return to the kinds of attacks and animosity that our military and its personnel experienced during the Vietnam Era. That would be bad, so, the military falls in line with the Ruling Paradigm. Part of the "ethos" of that Paradigm is to have WICA, period. End of my delusional and paranoid rant, which really sounds best when we are sitting at the bar and have each had at least three beers.

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Can we just have an all out men vs. women military exercise where we can put this bull shite to rest?

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The studies the services did in the Obama years were pretty definitive.

Critics immediately labeled them as flawed, without explaining how they were flawed, and continued to press for complete integration.

This oped is a great example of that. People come at her with facts, and she tells us it’s time to stop “questioning” it.

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IMHO, the top levels of our military leadership are very devoted to the idea that a nation like the USA must have a military that reflects the nation's civilian society/culture as much as possible.

The underlying reasoning for this is to ensure that the nation's civilians feel a connection with their military forces and veterans. If the military reflects society, that nexus is closer. This is deemed to be very important because of our Vietnam experience when the nexus was perceived to be destroyed or weakened. That was a bad time for military people and veterans seeking to "fit in" to civilian society and were rejected or made to feel discouraged. As such, in the nation's long-term military planning and shaping of the military, there is a strong desire to make policy that supports this notion that the military must reflect our civilian society/culture.

I guess you could say that the Long Term Planning Gurus don't want to repeat the ugly years of when our military folks returning from Vietnam were abused and insulted by our civilian society.

IMHO, it was a Leftist political infiltration of our civilian society that created that animosity for our vets. It was not some organic weakening of the military/civilian nexus. As such, if we proceed under the presumption that it was caused by organic influences and not external Leftist political action, we may not succeed in preserving this nexus, because, as soon as the political Left deems it politically advantageous, they can recreate the Vietnam Era animosity at any future point.

So long as the US military is serving Globalist political ends, there will probably be no reason for the political Left to attack the nexus between our civilian society/culture and our military.

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Lol man. It’s not this complicated. I’m sure if you were to ask one of these senior “long term planning gurus” he’d spout this line of garbage but none of them actually believe it because it doesn’t make any fricking sense

Our officer corps is careerist first and foremost. They are the opposite of mission oriented and couldn’t give two shits about the combat readiness of our military or our troops’ welfare. They’re trained to be this way. The vast majority of officers’ outlook is getting the next rank.

Get the right billets(Job performance doesn’t matter as long as you made pretty powerpoints for the general)

Don’t rock the boat(keep your fricking mouth shut when you seem something stupid)

Go to the right schools(learning is an afterthought just be sure to check that block)

Lock your soldiers up 24/7 so they don’t get a DWI or in a bar fight and make you look bad. And if they do make sure to absolute destroy the kid and his life so your superiors know you care about the image of the service as opposed to the actual service itself.

The completion percentage of SJW classes is more important to your career than the average PFT score of your unit.

Oh and if you deploy downrange as a staff officer or SOF guy you better find your way into a direct action mission where you kill some people. (Whether or not that makes any fricking sense is irrelevanting as you can out on your fitrep that you were a part of it)



Officers don’t even hide these facts. It’s a fricking joke.

I wish you could too my friend

Officers should have mandatory retirement at 20 years imo. They gotta do something to shake the officer corp up.

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They gotta do something to shake the officer corp up.

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Getting rid of about 75% of them would be a start. Most of what officers do could be done by a Corporal.