re: Women in Combat Arms: The Master Thread

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That's not limited to officers and retirement, either. I turned down Gunny when I separated.

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I agree.

20 acts like a great filter for enlisted also.

I just view it as more egregious on the other side simply because their combined income potential/retirement is so much higher.

But yes. I tell every enlisted friend of mine who reaches out to me now that I'm retired......."I cannot think of a single compelling argument for staying in past 20 if you think you have even a little bit of talent".

I could have stayed in another 6 years gaining a whole 2.5% per year in retirement. Pfft. My first pay raise in my first job swallowed that and then some.

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And someone explain to me why we have 9 fricking enlisted ranks. The first 3 in the Marine Corps and the first 4 or 5 in the rest of the services literally are just different names for Private.

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Hell, most leaders refer to them this way.

Officer to CSM - "We're going to need about 20 privates for this detail" = "20 people E4 and below"

This career discussion has knocked the WICA conversation clear off the tracks.

Still good insight, tho.



PS I still maintain that my long post is more correct than wrong. There are reasons why the career-oriented officer must conform to the current WICA paradigm and I explained some of them in my post.

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Shoulda got out at about 10.

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Yeah, this is what I recommend to anyone who asks. You get some great experience, with enough time left to have a great career when you're done.

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A Fleet Warrior in every sense of the word. Raised by very liberal parents (which he openly admitted). A genuinely good person and a fine Marine who is absolutely wrong on this issue.

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Was he an 0302 or some box kicking MOS? Sad thing is if that guy is an 0-6 range in the Marine Corps then he is my peer group. So glad I got out as a Sr. 0-3 (made the list as early promote for 0-4 and sad no thank you).

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Or possibly some of us care deeply about our profession and making a difference in the lives of our Soldiers and their families. We actually believe in the oath we took.

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Youre in the minority sir.

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For entertainment sake he was a field artillery officer who looked just like the guy who played Dick Winters in BoB.

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Damn Gun Bunny. They are about as bad a Box Kickers.

I likely wouldn’t know him based upon being an 0-6 in 2010. He would have been 4 to 6 years ahead of my peer group. So he would have been punching his ticket at a Recruit Depot or Recruiting while I was in the Fleet.

Well as long as he said it was the majority

I’m a patriette, and I totally agree with you and the others who stand with you. Y’all made some EXCELLENT points. I have always believed that it was selfish and silly for women to mess up the military balance so to speak. It was a smooth machine, and throwing women and trannies in the mix really complicates things on multiple levels. Logic and common sense tells us: Let’s Just let men protect our country and thank them for doing so. Period. It’s not sexist or trannyphobic, it’s science. Well, i guess a tranny with a penis would be ok as far as physical abilities go, but it still messes up the all guys comraderie type environment.

Anyway, I had never thought about the cost of training wasted along with the slots and how you end up with many less soldiers by the end of the year because women who didn’t make it took training spots of men who would have.