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re: Women in Combat Arms: The Master Thread
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:17 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Every service and every specialty has poor leaders. It is why we have commanders to enforce the standard.
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:18 am to GeauxxxTigers23
I don't disagree with your POV.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:20 am to Jbird
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I am saying a one size fits all cookie cutter approach isn't always the best solution.
That isn't what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the minimum ingredients.
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over regulation
I don't think ensuring the enforcement of minimum standards does this.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Sure it does, it's the natural of the current military leadership.
I don't think ensuring the enforcement of minimum standards does this.
The prime example is my former A-10 pilot. No room for flexibility.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:23 am to Wolfhound45
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It is why we have commanders to enforce the standard.
And too often, and increasingly, I believe they fail. That needs fixed.
I'm also against a medical officer having command of my team if we happened to get stuck on the same convoy/flight somewhere.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:24 am to Jbird
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The prime example is my former A-10 pilot. No room for flexibility.
Commanders can't be trusted by senior leadership with flexibility. And they can't be trusted by the. Senior leadership because of the poor leadership culture that those same senior leaders have helped foster over generations.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:25 am to Jbird
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The prime example is my former A-10 pilot.
I must have missed that example. I'll take a look.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:25 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Commanders can't be trusted by senior leadership with flexibility. And they can't be trusted by the. Senior leadership because of the poor leadership culture that those same senior leaders have helped foster over generations.
Well in a fluid battle field that's a deadly combination.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:26 am to Jbird
Agreed. But I didn't create the problem.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:28 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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But I didn't create the problem.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:29 am to DisplacedBuckeye
In my military, your pilot is likely fine.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:In mine we lost him and he is now flying with United Airlines.
In my military, your pilot is likely fine.
One bad assed pilot btw.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:32 am to Jbird
Then we agree that it needs fixed. Talk to your leadership and tell them I have a few ideas for how to do that.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Big Blue isn't interested.
Then we agree that it needs fixed. Talk to your leadership and tell them I have a few ideas for how to do that.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:34 am to Jbird
I'm thinking bigger.
SecDef DisplacedBuckeye should be sufficient.
SecDef DisplacedBuckeye should be sufficient.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:34 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Boom! Email sent to Trumpyouneedthisguy.com
SecDef DisplacedBuckeye should be sufficient.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:36 am to Jbird
Word. I'll get started on the handover of my company.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:45 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Are you en route to Trump tower with Romney? And YOU DID say no way Trump would win PA. Hurry up and answer me b4 MisterCarton bugs out on me and curses me out for axin you a question in his master thread.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:58 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The top Generals have had this mindset for years. Our military leadership is risk averse. It has shunned initiative and demonized risk taking. This lead to an environment where shitty officers without integrity could be promoted and given positions of authority. Those shitty officers without any integrity are the ones who fostered a culture of letting standards slide for your friends. Our officer corps is broken from the top down. And that's the problem with Champagne's theory on civil-military relations.
That entire theory is based off the contstruct that "military proffessionals" act with a sense of integrity. That integrity is gone, especially at the top. Most officers with integrity, drive, or initiative leave the service quickly. For the most part it's the careerists make it to the top. These General's have hidden behind the concept of civilian control of the military and "just following orders" for the sake of their careers instead of doing their DUTY to the country and speaking out against policies that hurt the military and the country. Civilian control of the military does not relieve you of your duties to do the right thing. It does not give you a pass to look the other way when the military is being harmed.
The US military has never been really been very good. It has looked good a couple of times because of good civilian leadership.
But it is REALLY crappy now.
It was Ray Odierno who had 4th ID rounding up every able-bodied man they could catch and sending them to Abu Ghraib, thereby creating many many enemies as well as causing a crisis at AG in the bargain.
But did he get relieved, oh NO. He got promoted.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:59 pm to cajunangelle
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Are you en route to Trump tower with Romney?
No. I have a spine, barely.
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And YOU DID say no way Trump would win PA.
When? Please say March.
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