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re: women are now better educated than their husbands - still earn less

Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:59 am to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:59 am to
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All these chicks now get gender studies and lesbian dance theory degreees and are shocked when there's not a high paying job waiting for them when they get out into the real world bc they have a worthless degree in lesbian dance theory.


This is kind of a myth

I'd say most college aged women that go to college end up majoring in things like marketing, education, communication, etc. and make 35-45k coming out of school(with a ceiling not much higher than that).
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 10:59 am to
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How does more education = more pay?


I think realistically,
a PhD holder typically makes more than someone with a bachelor's or master's degree. There obviously are exceptions but do we really need to argue that?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51489 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:00 am to
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I don't believe in the wage gap myth, fwiw.


Agreed.

The only guys I know that make more than their wives are ones with better degrees and/or went into more lucrative fields. I know quite a few couples whose wives make more than the husbands.


Tangent: Did the people doing this study discriminate against lesbian couples?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:01 am to
So wait, are you saying there’s inequality in our education system of which men are the victims?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:02 am to

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"Better Educated" means time spent sitting on your fat arse in a classroom.


Not really. You don't get a degree for attendance.


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How many girls spend their summers in high school framing houses...or working in a body shop...or driving a tractor?



I don't know any men or women who did this. What's your point?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:03 am to
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So wait, are you saying there’s inequality in our education system of which men are the victims?



I have no idea how you drew this conclusion.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:04 am to
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Tangent: Did the people doing this study discriminate against lesbian couples?



It appears so. All homosexual couples. They only studied strait couples.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 am to
It sounds to me as if you’re saying men have less access to education

Women make less than men, and you obviously feel that’s a result of discrimination so why is an imbalance in education not a result of discrimination?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56405 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:05 am to
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I'm more educated than my husband. He makes more money than me, but I'm hoping to surpass him in earnings eventually. Or not. It doesn't matter to me who makes more, I just hope that both of us keep making more money.



What do each of you do for a living?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:06 am to
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What do each of you do for a living?


He's in sales. I'm in education. It makes sense that he makes more than me. Our jobs are totally different.
Posted by Thrawn
Huntsville, AL
Member since Sep 2017
194 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:06 am to
My girlfriend of five years has two bachelors and is applying for graduate school. She has a degree in history, math teaching, and wants a history PHD.

I work as an hourly manager at Wal-mart to pay for college to study for an engineering degree. If she wasn't a math teacher in a Title I school I'd be making more than she is in a job I got after a year of busting my tail. Probably still make more than her per hour after grading. If I went to salaried management I'd make more than her straight up, and probably would until she became a tenure track professor instead of a part-time professor(assuming she continues that route).

That's retail. Now consider how it's going to look when I'm working in my field.

Education is great, and allows her to get paid for what she loves, but a degree doesn't entitle you to a higher salary than someone who doesn't. Market demand for your job does. What actual job, outside of academia or museums(both oversaturated and less profitable markets) do degrees like "Gender Studies", "Obscure Country History", or "Cultural Literature" lend themselves to?

Not everyone can appreciate a painting, a novel, or even a movie. But almost everyone can appreciate a touch screen, the hum of an engine, or the security of a strong country.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56405 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:08 am to
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He's in sales. I'm in education. It makes sense that he makes more than me. Our jobs are totally different.



Agree.

In your opinion, do each of you feel an equivalent burden to provide for your family (assuming you have kids)?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25318 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:08 am to
Better educated doesn't necessarily mean better valued.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:09 am to
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It sounds to me as if you’re saying men have less access to education


That's not at all what I'm suggesting. I still have no idea how you came to this conclusion.


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Women make less than men, and you obviously feel that’s a result of discrimination


Huh? How is that obvious? It's certainly not true.

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:09 am to
Oh then why do women make less?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:12 am to
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In your opinion, do each of you feel an equivalent burden to provide for your family (assuming you have kids)?


I would actually say yes to this. I have no desire to stay home and if I can ever make enough money, my husband would stay at home. I work at a very high pressure school and it's super stressful but it's where I could make the most money. We both essentially work jobs we hate, unfortunately

Eta: while my husband makes more than than me, it's not double my salary or anything like that.

This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:14 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50015 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:12 am to
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Oh then why do women make less?


You could probably answer your own question.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:12 am to
I don’t have a degree and make 3 times what my wife does. I also only work 180 days per year.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10967 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:14 am to
Why come woman have to make bigger money then guy dudes?...
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61137 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:14 am to
Probably because women typically don't go into STEM or business degrees. Imagine that.
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