- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Will people here admit that the vaccines are working?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 9:15 pm to shel311
Posted on 6/6/21 at 9:15 pm to shel311
quote:
2 things here...
1. Here's another poster denying the effectiveness of the vaccine without any logical rationale.
Since you quoted the text, I'm sure you can point out with specificity where it is in that quote that I "denied" the effectiveness of the totally, never-before-conducted large scale implementation of emergency authorized experimental genetic therapy to treat the effects of the SARS-COV-2 bio-weapon.
But even if I were to question their efficacy in this case, so what? You are the one advocating for this so-called vaccine, then advocate. If I take up a skeptical position, it's not my job to prove your claims. Present you data and their sources. I'm assuming you have access to all the latest research on the large scale use of messenger RNA genetic therapies on the general population. Oh, wait... that's right! You don't because it has never been done before until now, so kindly stop putting words in my mouth, thanks.
So in the end this thread doesn't even amount to the usual predictable strawman that is seen so often on this board, but it is actually an example of a straw man within another straw man. The advocates for the vaccine have to take position that people on this board not only doubt the effectiveness of mRNA therapy, but they are doubt the effectiveness of any vaccine. Why? Because they have insufficient data to support their initial claim, so they choose to caricature the other side in lazy, cynical attempt to be right in at least some capacity.
quote:
2. To the dude who posted this, you do realize this is your to me stating factually that a vaccine is a vaccine, right? Or, you had no idea what you were even replying to, which is it? It can only be 1 of the 2.
SARS-COV-2 is a biological weapon. The "vaccine" is in fact a highly experimental genetic mRNA protein treatment authorized for emergency use to stop the biological weapon from making your very ill with possible lifelong complications or even killing you. That's the plan, at least. I for one hope that all goes as planned, the therapy works, etc. But please cease with this false equivalency that that an emergency authorization of mRNA treatment to fight the effects of biological weapon unleashed upon the world is any way comparable to traditional vaccine treatment. They are not the same.
2
Posted on 6/6/21 at 9:31 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:Maybe when you figure shite out and stop making shite up, you can try to have a discussion me.
based upon the ever moving goalposts of vaccine pumpers like you.
Until then, have fun. Must be shitty when the only way you be right is when you gotta make something up the other person never said. Sucks for you.
quote:The message board doesn't have thoughts or opinions, not sure you realize that, as crazy as that is to have to say lol.
and you are operating under the assumption that the board thinks vaccines don’t work.
quote:You literally just admitted you didn't read the thread and said it's irrelevant that you didn't read the thread, then proceeded to give an opinion on the responses in this thread.
That is clearly contradicted by the overwhelming responses to his post here
You do realize that is what you did, right? Or nah, you're not able to grasp this simple concept of what you did?
Posted on 6/6/21 at 9:34 pm to Powerman
quote:But how dare you!!!
So my op (which is actually just a question) does show that some people don't think they're working.
And that's only the people who gave legit arguments, which there were many. Now throw in all the additional posts dudes made against the vaccine with no logic, and there's quite a few posters over these threads who don't think it's working. So it's definitely odd that so many were really upset by the thread being started.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 9:41 pm to the whyrly byrd
quote:Sure, no problem.
Since you quoted the text, I'm sure you can point out with specificity where it is in that quote that I "denied"
quote:There ya go. The plebs narrative about the "cure", it's painfully obvious.
The official narrative plebs have finally figured out that the same people who funded and developed the SARS-COV-2 bio-weapon also funded and developed the experiemental gene therapy meant to be the "cure."
quote:That would mean you don't think the vaccine is working. Get it now?
But even if I were to question their efficacy in this case, so what?
quote:my claim is that there are quite a few people in this thread who don't think the vaccine is working.
If I take up a skeptical position, it's not my job to prove your claims
quote:What does all that have to do with my claim that quite a few posters are on record in this thread stating the vaccine isn't working?
I'm assuming you have access to all the latest research on the large scale use of messenger RNA genetic therapies on the general population. Oh, wait... that's right! You don't because it has never been done before until now, so kindly stop putting words in my mouth, thanks.
quote:It's not a position, this thread shows it's a fact that quite a few posters think the vaccine isn't working.
The advocates for the vaccine have to take position that people on this board not only doubt the effectiveness of mRNA
quote:I have data to support my claim that quite a few posters think that the vaccine isn't working. This thread.
Why? Because they have insufficient data to support their initial claim, so they choose to caricature the other side in lazy, cynical attempt to be right in at least some capacity.
quote:it's a vaccine, factually speaking. Nothing you say can undo that fact. You can try, would just be a waste of your time though. It's a vaccine.
The "vaccine" is in fact a highly experimental genetic mRNA protein treatment authorized for emergency use to stop the biological weapon from making your very ill with possible lifelong complications or even killing you. That's the plan, at least. I for one hope that all goes as planned, the therapy works, etc. But please cease with this false equivalency that that an emergency authorization of mRNA treatment to fight the effects of biological weapon unleashed upon the world is any way comparable to traditional vaccine treatment. They are not the same
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:35 pm to shel311
You seem delusional, like really fricked in the head.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:43 pm to Powerman
Heard immunity is part of the reason there are fewer COVID infections and it is now summer time.
Vax have very little to do with reducing the spread.
People with or without vax have been getting COVID.
Only way to know if vax works is if people with vax have been around COVID patients and not get COVID; however, there have been many cases prior to vax where people had no vax, were sleeping with a spouse who was COVID positive, and the pother spouse and kids at home never got it.
Vax have very little to do with reducing the spread.
People with or without vax have been getting COVID.
Only way to know if vax works is if people with vax have been around COVID patients and not get COVID; however, there have been many cases prior to vax where people had no vax, were sleeping with a spouse who was COVID positive, and the pother spouse and kids at home never got it.
Posted on 6/6/21 at 11:51 pm to Powerman
You mean how they crank the PCR tests up to 40 for nan-vaccinated which will detect anything you want, while only using 28 for vaccinated? Seems legit....
Posted on 6/7/21 at 12:45 am to shel311
quote:
It's a vaccine.
ITS NOT A VACCINE
The fine print from every manufacturer clearly states that it is designed to reduce the severity, not to stop the infection
quote:
The vaccine is 85% effective in preventing severe COVID-19 disease and 100% effective in preventing COVID-19-related hospitalizations and deaths. - Johnson & Johnson
quote:
The data shows that the vaccine is at least 97% effective in preventing severe COVID-19 reactions, hospitalizations, and death two weeks after the second dose. - Pfizer
quote:
Our data show vaccinated people have a lower “viral load” and are less likely to pass the coronavirus to others if they do become infected, but it does not limit transmission. The reduction in viral load amounts to about an 11 percent decrease in infectiousness. - Moderna
quote:
Our vaccine, developed with Britain's Oxford University, showed about 79% efficacy in preventing symptomatic disease. Also, not one person who got fully vaccinated ended up being hospitalized due to a coronavirus infection. - AstraZeneca
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 1:04 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:37 am to Powerman
The rise and falls are the same as India et al
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:58 am to shel311
quote:
You literally just admitted you didn't read the thread
No, I didn’t get an exact tally of the final score of people who believe the vaccine works and who don’t, but it’s clear from the responses here that the overwhelming majority of people who’ve responded do in fact believe the vaccine works.
Are you saying that’s not true? Because, we can certainly get a final score and show that you’re wrong.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:40 am to Jumbo_Gumbo
quote:
How the people of this country hang on to every word our government and media feed them is unbelievable to me. They are caught lying every day and still we have millions of sheep who blindly follow their direction and instruction. To each his own i guess, but i for one don’t believe a single word they tell me.
This can’t be stated enough. Even my local news has started with incessant vaccine propaganda. Birmingham is planning on doing a sweepstakes for vaccine recipients to encourage people to get it.
Someone should compare states with the lowest vaccine rates to states with the highest vaccine rates and see how they are faring. I assume that if Alabama and Mississippi were getting crushed by the corona virus due to low vaccine rates, that’d be on perpetual loop on the news.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:57 am to RobbBobb
quote:
ITS NOT A VACCINE
Stahp.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 6:41 am
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:59 am to the whyrly byrd
quote:I agree the OP was sort of a strawman set up. I'm disappointed that science has so prostituted itself that folks who don't understand it can no longer trust accurate characterization from those who do. False "scientific" narrative has been a long held beef of mine stemming back to anthropogenic global warmists. Unfortunately, that's where we are. Jenny McCarthy and Naomi Wolf are absorbed with the more perceived veracity than Joseph Salk. Sad, but predicable.
But please cease with this false equivalency that that an emergency authorization of mRNA treatment to fight the effects of biological weapon unleashed upon the world is any way comparable to traditional vaccine treatment.
But here are the facts:
(1) Two of the four vaccines ARE traditional, so they are 100% an option.
(2) The mRNA vaccines are nothing but a slick way of limited induced antigen production which actually confers a more complete immunity than the traditional options. There is nothing "highly experimental" unless that is your association with any first use therapeutic category.
The kicker? Compared with traditional vaccines which generally are quite safe, mRNAs are almost certainly a safer alternative.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:36 am to Powerman
The vaccine is equivalent to Michael Jordan’s secret stuff.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:15 am to Powerman
False. They’re changing the metrics. CDC released that only 3 out 10 folks are getting it.
The chemical experiment has allowed re-opening of things that should never have been shut down.
Now, go read fauci’s emails and report back
The chemical experiment has allowed re-opening of things that should never have been shut down.
Now, go read fauci’s emails and report back
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:24 am to TaderSalad
I bet Type-A and Type-B Flu numbers are beginning to finally rise again from the ashes. Wonder why?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:31 am to Powerman
The willful ignorance in this thread is appalling.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:13 am to BigJim
Nothing but the flu
This is a hoax
No deaths
Fewer Deaths than flu
Limbaugh cough
Democratic Hoax
No Masks cause my riiiiiites!
Take an oral disinfectant
Trump was right
Q said Fauci to be arrested
Give Trump credit for vaccine
I'm not taking the vaccine its a plot
miss anything from you guys?
This is a hoax
No deaths
Fewer Deaths than flu
Limbaugh cough
Democratic Hoax
No Masks cause my riiiiiites!
Take an oral disinfectant
Trump was right
Q said Fauci to be arrested
Give Trump credit for vaccine
I'm not taking the vaccine its a plot
miss anything from you guys?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:17 am to Tmcgin
quote:
Take an oral disinfectant
This one is the best. It makes you Clowns look so stupid yet you love it
Page 17 of 19
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News