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re: Will anybody who previously support gay marriage admit it was a mistake ?
Posted on 3/29/24 at 7:58 am to BayouBlitz
Posted on 3/29/24 at 7:58 am to BayouBlitz
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Just as perverse as a 17 year old girl and 50 year old man.
Quoted for posterity
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Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:25 am to TN Tygah
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I don’t know a single one who just decided to be gay.
Then they must not exist.
Look, evidence is starting to pile in that the more cool it is to be gay, the more people decide to be gay. That's completely unsurprising to anybody; social pressures do a lot of steering for the under 25 crowd.
That doesn't mean that there aren't people who've felt like that since birth and wish they could change it, but it does mean that not everybody who claims to be gay fits into that category.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:27 am to Tasseo
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A societies #1 responsibility is growth thru procreation. Homosexuality can't fulfill that. And that's the oldest fact that doesn't care about anyones "love" or feels.
Yep
Homosexuals have perverted to meaning of marriage to fit their lifestyle but marriage was always designed to be between male and female.
The structure is designed to provide tax incentive for male and female tojoin with the intent to procreate. Through that structure, a child can most safely be raised. Little known secret amongst male homosexuals is the high frequency of infidelity. The relationship does not provide for a sound structure to raise children.
Also, Countries strive for positive growth rates through pro creation rather than reliance solely on immigration.
Homosexual sex cannot procreate. It’s purely for pleasure. It does not meet the intent of marriage and therefore, it’s illegitimate.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:30 am to wackatimesthree
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Who were the men playing women's sports prior to the legalization of gay marriage?
I said pretty much all...not definitely all of it existed.
The other things like men cross-dressing and women dressing butch have existed for multiple decades. I had multiple teachers in my elementary grades talk about homosexuality. All prior to same sex marriage.
Claiming that same sex marriages mainstreamed lgbtq ideas is not logical.
What is logical is the rise of social media has put the lgbtq plight in to everyone's lives. That in turn forces mainstream media to address it.
I bet not one kid today knows a same sex couple but I bet they know a lot of gay influencers on tik tok.
I know a few homosexuals and they all noted that social media helped them come out of the closet and how to be more assertive about their wants/goals and desires.
There are a lot of ignorant posts on this thread. Most likely those posters have never had a conversation with anyone gay and are just speaking out their back side.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:32 am to Monsusta
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Claiming that same sex marriages mainstreamed lgbtq ideas is not logical.
You can't be serious. Was it the ONLY factor? No, but it was clearly a factor.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 9:34 am to Monsusta
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Claiming that same sex marriages mainstreamed lgbtq ideas is not logical.
Lol, you're nuts.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 10:02 am to Flats
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You can't be serious. Was it the ONLY factor? No, but it was clearly a factor.
You basically confirmed my statements. I never said it was not a factor.
OP clearly points to same sex marriage as the primary factor.
My post was clearly saying it is not the primary.
I stand by my statement...social media mainstreamed it.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 10:18 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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All gay people aren’t pedos. Most pedos are gay people.
I think the most common victim of pedos are girls:
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This study reviewed 304 cases of sexual abuse reported to a child abuse hotline between 1976 and 1979. Sexual abuse was substantiated in 205 cases. Twenty-five cases involved male victims, and females were victimized in the remaining 180 cases. Male victims were significantly younger than the female victims (8.6 compared to 10.6 average age). Male victims were more likely to live in homes without a father. When treatment was recommended, male victims were more likely to complete treatment, but they were seen for less time than females. (The average time in treatment was less than 16 hours for males.) This is minimal when compared to the average time in individual treatment (39 hours) reported in a survey of sexual abuse treatment centers. Male perpetrators who abused male victims received harsher dispositions than male abusers of females. They were more likely to be imprisoned and diagnosed mentally ill. Differences between cases of male and female sexual abuse victims should be identified and managed accordingly to ensure that male victims receive treatment and protection equivalent to female victims. 4 tables and 21 references.
LINK
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One in 9 girls and 1 in 20 boys under the age of 18 experience sexual abuse or assault.3
82% of all victims under 18 are female.4
Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.2
LINK
Posted on 3/29/24 at 10:23 am to Monsusta
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You basically confirmed my statements. I never said it was not a factor.
This is bullshite, and nowhere have I confirmed it.
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Claiming that same sex marriages mainstreamed lgbtq ideas is not logical.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:02 am to Mickey Goldmill
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lol you couldn’t be more wrong
If I were wrong, this thread wouldn't exist.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:11 am to ctiger69
quote:It started with Loving v Virginia and has been all downhill since then.
Will anybody who previously support gay marriage admit it was a mistake ?
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//This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 11:22 am
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:27 am to moneyg
quote:Rob and Bob are a gay couple.
Negatively impacting your life is exactly what people like him (in large part) want.
Rob: "Bob, I don't really WANT us to get married, but it would really annoy the straights."
Bob: "I don't want to marry you either, but annoying the straights sounds like fun. Let's do it!"
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:47 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Yeah, heterosexual marriage never has that…
It’s not a normal feature of heterosexual marriage.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:51 am to Turbeauxdog
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Claiming that same sex marriages mainstreamed lgbtq ideas is not logical.
Lol, you're nuts.
It was not gay people who chose to have the trannies and “non binaries” in their group. These people forced themselves in and gay people are kind of pressured to go along with it. They hijacked the thing. Trans used to be an extremely rare and documented disorder (gender dysphoria) in the same category as schizophrenia that affected about 1 in 5000 people, now it’s a fad, and non-binary has always been only a fad. And saying that gay marriage is to blame because none of this happened before gay marriage is absurd. None of this happened before we had social media. None of this happened before we had a black president. None of this happened when Pluto was still a planet. Gimme a break.
And all these people talking about gay marriage isn’t legitimate because it’s not viable for procreation. Dumb. Maybe every woman who finds out she can’t bear children should get divorced?
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:53 am to moneyg
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Negatively impacting your life is exactly what people like him (in large part) want.
If gay people getting married has negatively impacted your life at all, you're doing life wrong.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 11:58 am to ctiger69
I still hold the same opinion about same sex marriage that I've always had.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:30 pm to Monsusta
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The other things like men cross-dressing and women dressing butch have existed for multiple decades.
They've existed for all of human history. At the fringe.
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I had multiple teachers in my elementary grades talk about homosexuality.
And I had (literally) none. And guaranteed I'm older than you.
And all that means is that the trend precedes gay marriage, which no one I have seen has denied. The claim is that it sped up and exaggerated the trend, not that it is responsible for the whole thing.
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Claiming that same sex marriages mainstreamed lgbtq ideas is not logical.
Of course it is. We can talk about specifics if you'd like.
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social media
Of course that is also a big part of it. Do you remember seeing the WH lit up in rainbow colors all over social media when the gay marriage decision came down? I do.
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I bet not one kid today knows a same sex couple
Not one, huh?
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There are a lot of ignorant posts on this thread.
Oh, the irony.
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Most likely those posters have never had a conversation with anyone gay and are just speaking out their back side.
I would say that the likelihood that the majority of posters here never having a single conversation with a gay person is about the same as not one child knowing a same sex couple.
I can only speak for myself. I've had a gay uncle, a gay cousin, a gay roommate, several gay employees, two gay bosses, about a dozen gay friends, no telling how many gay patients, and a 23 year old child who "identifies as LGBTQ" in my lifetime.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:39 pm to Monsusta
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The other things like men cross-dressing and women dressing butch have existed for multiple decades.
The drag shows of days gone by were done as absurdist comedy. They were funny because no sane person actually believed that they were women. And women can dress as butch as they want, literally no one has a problem with that. Insisting that others play along with their dangerous delusions is very different.
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:42 pm to TN Tygah
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It was not gay people who chose to have the trannies and “non binaries” in their group.
Of course they did. Some of them are regretting it and some have resisted it from the beginning—that part's true—but most of them are still proud to have the T in the alphabet soup of specialness.
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These people forced themselves in and gay people are kind of pressured to go along with it.
That's literally not what happened and there is historical data to refute it. Look up ENDA from 1974.
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Trans used to be an extremely rare and documented disorder...in the same category as schizophrenia
So did homosexuality. It wasn't removed from the DSM until 1973.
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now it’s a fad
So is homosexuality. Again, 20% of young people "identify" as LGBTQ, and most of those are not Ts
You're making the point you were hoping to refute.
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And saying that gay marriage is to blame because none of this happened before gay marriage is absurd.
It may be absurd. Unfortunately for you and the rest of you trying to beat up that straw man, nobody is claiming that.
This post was edited on 3/29/24 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 3/29/24 at 2:55 pm to wackatimesthree
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So is homosexuality. Again, 20% of young people "identify" as LGBTQ, and most of those are not Ts
Wrong. When gay marriage was legalized we did not see a huge spurt of LGBTQ. If you look at the graph, in the last 2-3 years, LGBTQ has SKYROCKETED. It’s because TQ’s have become a thing, especially the Q’s. Like my example of my girlfriend’s sister. She’s clearly a woman, acts like one, dresses like one, dates men. She just felt like she wanted to be a Q. They do not belong in the same category as gay, so more LGTBQ does not mean more gay people. At all. When it was only about gay people, there was a little bit of an increase because more people felt comfortable coming out.
Re: homosexuality being a disorder. I tend to agree, it is one, but affects more than gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is exceedingly rare.
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That's literally not what happened and there is historical data to refute it. Look up ENDA from 1974
It is literally what happened. LGBT was the thing since the 80s. People still say it. The T’s started screaming loudest and pushing themselves onto kids, the Q’s joined in on the acronym, abbreviation, whatever.
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You're making the point you were hoping to refute
Wrong again. You’re making the point I was making. Most of the people who jumped on were Q’s, and many were T’s. It all of a sudden became an unrealistic growth chart in the last few years. TQ should not be in the same category, if they were, it would be significantly less than 20%.
Either way, I think it results from social outcasts trying to become “cool”. But right now they outnumber every demographic except for white people, it will become commonplace and I expect people to come to their senses eventually, if for nothing else, out of boredom or lack of appeal to something that once was faddish and now is way too popular.
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