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re: Why was ALL of the Media in Tampa Bay pre Hurricane?

Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by Mr Boyles
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:02 pm to
I’m not the idiot who was predicting Jacksonville first direct hit, then ooops let’s move it down to Tampa for the direct hit… then ooops now it’s South Florida for the hit!!

Every single news station relays what the national hurricane center tells them. And if you think that they got this storm right then look I. The mirror at who is the idiot.. by the way, don’t forget your mask and your booster shot because you have to believe everything the government and media tells you. If you are against the mask and boosters then you are a grade A fricking hypocrite
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31836 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:05 pm to
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All I am saying is that the media was wrong. Just like the media is purposely wrong about a LOT of shite and for the assholes giving me shite about asking a legit question


Yes at least you admit you made a clear implication that they were intentionally wrong

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How in the frick was the entire state of Florida (including the panhandle was in the cone of uncertainty 48 hours before the storm hit and then all of a sudden it hits SOUTHWEST Florida??? Explain that to me Mr. Hurricane Professionals


This is relatively normal. As I posted earlier Galveston had a mandatory evacuation 48 hours before Laura hit 135 miles east


This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 6:06 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:06 pm to
Well no one would care where you predicted it to go anyway. Point is this shite isn't easy to predict and people almost always get it wrong which is why you have to continuously monitor the track
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:07 pm to
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admit you made a clear implication that they were intentionally wrong

He seems to be walking that back after everyone laughed at him for such blatant stupidity
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5558 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:08 pm to
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d. I am just asking a simple legit question. 100 miles is a long distance to be off considering every fricking hurricane before this one was pretty much on point with predictions.


If you follow all the weather blogs, this was the hardest storm they have ever have followed. The European model was very close. GFS model sucked and that needs to be discussed.

In a short explanation, the slowing down (which was unknown) allowed the front to come further south pushing the storm east.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31836 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:08 pm to
I think you need to take a break from politics. It can make everyone angry at times
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
1600 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:08 pm to
Jacksonville —> Tampa —> Southwest Florida - yea, I would say they got it wrong which once again proves my point

Was the media and the national hurricane center the reason there were a lot more deaths then usual??
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:10 pm to
No one is disputing they have it wrong

It's your stupid implication that there was some deliberate misinformation to make Ron look bad is what people take issue with
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
1600 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:11 pm to
No one in the media is saying that it was wrong - they are saying that BDR is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad - BDR is bad!! It's ALL BDR fault that there were a lot of deaths. THAT'S MY frickING POINT!
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31836 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:22 pm to
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Jacksonville —> Tampa —> Southwest Florida - yea, I would say they got it wrong


No one denied that they got it wrong

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which once again proves my point


Your point that they intentionally got it wrong? No that is nowhere near being proven.


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Was the media and the national hurricane center the reason there were a lot more deaths then usual??



Have there been? If so very sad. I’d attribute it to a few things.

First a difficult to track storm and second complacency of those on the Florida coast
Maybe I’m missing some but it seems to me that the majority of the recent “big ones” have been all towards Texas Louisiana Katrina Ike Rita Laura ida Harvey. Last big one to contiguous Florida was Michael on 2017 but that was it going back to 2004. Maybe they’ve been relatively lucky and “rode it out like the last few” rather than having their wake up call and GTFO when there’s something brewing close.

If anyone did what you actually said and evacuated from Tampa to fort myers than that would be the perfect example. I guarantee that no one in lake Charles is evacuating to somewhere else in coastal Louisiana if a storm was forecast to hit there next week
Posted by Mr Boyles
Member since Mar 2022
1600 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:29 pm to
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Your point that they intentionally got it wrong? No that is nowhere near being proven.


And COVID, Masks and Boosters were Right? Did the Government and Media Intentionally get it right by closing everything down, forcing booster shots, making people wear masks, etc?

I am not saying that they purposely got this forcast wrong but I am saying that there was a shite load of mis information that they knowingly got WRONG.

Now, they are blaming this terrible storm and all the mishaps on Ron DeSantes because they hate the man from going off THEIR shitty and wrong predictions.

It's the "Perfect" Storm for them to blame, blame, blame because they HATE, HATE, HATE the man
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3693 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:54 pm to
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Almost 100 miles away from Ground Zero (Ft Myers) - Why did the media trick people in Tampa to evacuate which a lot of people did to Fort Myers? How did the Governemt run Hurricane Center be off by 100 fricking miles? I know these storms can be tricky but it's just odd to me that they were off by this much.

Something is just not adding up to me on this Hurricane (and I have been through a LOT of them)



OP, you’re a fricking idiot. This post would have rightfully amassed 100 downvotes within first hour in the actual hurricane thread.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79179 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:55 pm to
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Nope - My OP is stating that the Media and Hurricane Center got it WRONG which is the reason there are more deaths then normal and it so happens to be in the middle of an election year where THEY hate the Governor of the State where the Hurricane is hitting.



WTF is wrong with you people

The NHC doesn't make it up, they look at models that are run by computers and try to coherently pick whichever ones have been more reliable or draw inferences based on consensus, etc.

The Euro had this into Tampa like 10 days ago, then GFS and Euro bounced around for days before settling into the west coast of FL, where it ultimately hit within the cone they'd had out for 5 days. There was much discussion about Tampa vs. south and there was never any insinuation you should evacuate to somewhere else in the trajectory.

FFS people
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79179 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:57 pm to
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No one denied that they got it wrong



I do.

They didn't get it wrong. 2-3 days out they shifted to Port Charlotte area.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63947 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:01 pm to
SIAP but-

If the storm track was heading perpendicular to the shore like what Katrina did, and the eyewall landfall was a hundred miles off from the forecast 24 hours earlier, that would be slightly embarrassing.

But when the storm is coming in parallel to a shoreline, it only has to veer 20 miles off course to make a 100 mile difference in landfall.

Even if landfall was in Tampa, Ft Myers would still be fricked, same as Ft Myers is the landfall but Naples was still fricked.

Also, you are glowing.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162217 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:13 pm to
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No one in the media is saying that it was wrong - they are saying that BDR is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad - BDR is bad!! It's ALL BDR fault that there were a lot of deaths. THAT'S MY frickING POINT!

Your point is you're doubling down on the dumbest shite ever conceived
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64513 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:20 pm to
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the idiocy in the OP…you do realize that this storm approached at an angle nearly parallel to the west coast of Florida, where small deviations in approach heading led to huge distances on the FL gulf coast, unlike the perpendicular approaches you typically see in La/Texas/Mississippi…geometry people




He's an absolute fricking idiot....or trolling...which makes it all the same.


It's quite literally called the "Cone of Uncertainty" when they're predicting a hurricane track. Why the frick do you think it's called that?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:23 pm to
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Mr Boyles
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2888 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:58 pm to
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I'm not saying it is a conspiracy theory frick head. I am just asking a simple legit question. 100 miles is a long distance to be off considering every fricking hurricane before this one was pretty much on point with predictions.


Go research the average margin of error in hurricane forecasts at 48/72/96 hours, then get back to us.
Sometimes there are things that influence these storms which even the best forecast models don't pick up on till the last minute.
See the one that sat just off the coast of Mobile/Pensacola a couple of years ago. (Sally I think?)
My sister in Pensacola was trapped in her house for about 18 hours and didn't know if she was going to make it.
She based her decision not to evacuate on the forecast the night before the water rose and trapped her in the house before daybreak. What was supposed to be 1-2 feet of surge turned into 5-6 feet in her zone.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17673 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:10 pm to
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the idiocy in the OP…you do realize that this storm approached at an angle nearly parallel to the west coast of Florida, where small deviations in approach heading led to huge distances on the FL gulf coast, unlike the perpendicular approaches you typically see in La/Texas/Mississippi…geometry people


I’m not sure if this comment is directed at me but my post above is not predicated in any way on the accuracy of Ian’s predicted landfall.
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