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re: Why the Pandemic Is So Bad in America

Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:54 am to
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 9:54 am to
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They wrote an article about why something that isn't very bad is "so bad"


This is commitment.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35959 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 12:24 pm to
I read it.....predictable drivel.

1. Blame man because we have pushed into wild animal habiats.

2.U.S. could have done more,bwhy we should have been more proactive.....we should have spent time in Jan/Feb creating test kits.... nevermind we were being lied to by China and the charatans at WHO

3. Blame Orange Man....he gutted CDC and bloated health agencies

Either we learn to live with this bug like we did with the flu after WWI and acheive a certain amount of herd immunity.....sooner rather than later, prople will die ...not from the virus alone, but from suicides, overdoses, other shite,
We will have widespread problems because we will have screwed large dwaths of the working and middle class, whose jobs do not entail doing Zoom from home.

Buuuut whatta I know, I'm not an "expert".
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21815 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Are all of these extremely left-leaning mega corporations going to flee to more conservative states? I don't see Facebook, Google, Amazon, Apple, etc starting to embrace conservative principles anytime soon.

You seem to be under the false impression that these companies have to compete/have competition. You might be able to make an argument that Apple does, but they're clearly at/near untouchable category. The others, not even close.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22951 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 12:34 pm to
I'm not going to read that, but I have my own opinion.

We're the most prominent, most free nation in the world, and we're one of the largest. We trade and travel with everyone.

It's practically impossible to isolate our nation from outside, and attempting to restrict personal freedoms for the sake of public health has almost incited a revolution. Not just public opinion, but looking at state legislatures, La almost eliminated the governor's powers to declare an emergency. We had to be dragged kicking and screaming to any response.

Not saying the American reaction was right or wrong, or whether the pandemic was legit or not. The reaction was predictable, and would have been had it been a plague or anything else.
You can't treat the US like it's Luxembourg, or Sweden. It just doesn't work like that here.

And yet, we still never overwhelmed the healthcare response, we have a low per-capita death rate, and we're already back to recreational activities (flocking to the beaches, preparing for major sports etc). We're going to process and move past this international crisis in less than a calendar year.
That's not "bad", that's impressive.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46175 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:15 pm to
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No democrat can quantify how we could’ve “beat” covid


Because literally no one "beat" covid.

And no one could have. A pandemic is far too dynamic for humans to control.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109721 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:17 pm to
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Scoob



Great post.

Love the downvote.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8264 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Jesus fricking Christ, that was a load of shite.

I made it four paragraphs. Someone beat that.


You beat me, I didn't finish the first paragraph. Some wienies are in a bum rush to throw in the towel, mainly on the hopes it will defeat Trump.

Having once had an Atlantic subscription for several years before cancelling, I knew it was going to be a mistake when I clicked the link.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52267 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

They wrote an article about why something that isn't very bad is "so bad"


Exactly. We have less deaths per capita than several European countries. And we're probably closer to herd immunity. The severity of the outbreak has to be judged in the context of progress towards herd immunity.

This is like comparing two transactions. I buy a new Ferrari for $20, and you buy a piece of bubble gum for $5. Then Anderson Cooper comes on to tell us how much worse my purchase was than yours, because I'm out $20 and you're only out $5.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52267 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:32 pm to
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Yeah those multisyllabic words can be tough sometimes


WHAT kind of words?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52267 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:37 pm to
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What was incorrect that you saw. And don't give me rhetoric, be specific.


I didn't read the article because I have been boycotting the Atlantic since its shameful retraction of Kevin Williamson's job offer. But America is right in there with our main peer group of countries. We have about 540 dead per million. We will probably end up a little higher than most, and that is exclusively due to the minority population, which is unfortunately heavily impacted.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22951 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Great post.

Love the downvote.
I know, right?

Did Covid overwhelm the US? Let's look at the resources we have-
Largest and most mobile military in the world. Huge National Guard/Reserve capability.
Did we need to invoke those, to set up emergency hospitals, supplement police, replace fallen infrastructure? No, not really. Maybe at a couple locations, but nothing near what we COULD have done. We had a couple hospital ships deployed, didn't come into use. We do see some deployment of military medical personnel to supplement civilian efforts, but that's more of an economic choice= agency staff are going where the better money is.
We didn't have to actually lock anything down, we encouraged people to stay home and we closed some public businesses. We didn't have the military patrolling to make sure you didn't spread the contagion like wildfire.

All of what we didn't need to do, we could have, and still state that it didn't overwhelm the US.
Posted by Tigerbuzz8585
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
99 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:57 pm to
Politics is the true answer. We have tested a much larger percentage of our population than any other country. It's not any worse than anywhere else. The end.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42212 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:59 pm to
Propaganda? Misinformation? Unadulterated lust for power by the Democrat’s?

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