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Why The American Left Gave Up On Political Violence

Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:00 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:00 am
Since A Want has gone missing, I thought I would step in his place for a moment to let you all view a nice article from WAPO.

I'm starting to see this theme now in the MSM and Social Media. That's right, our violent leftist friends aren't violent at all. The "what you're seeing isn't real" defense is being played up again. Let's see if this will continue to backfire on the Democrats.

Don't Believe What You Are Seeing

My favorite part of the article:

quote:

Although the American left’s transition away from violence was as much a strategic choice as a moral one, the seeds of violence are still embedded in its historical consciousness. That is why lone-wolf attackers like James T. Hodgkinson , who shot and critically wounded GOP Rep. Steve Scalise during a baseball practice in June, and occasionally violent groups such as antifa, which have clashed with right-wing protesters, are worrisome. But they are not the same as their counterparts on the right. Antifa is mostly anarchist in nature; its members are suspicious and dismissive of the left’s embrace of government institutions. More important, it is loosely banded, disorganized and low scale. Brawling on campuses, throwing rocks or vandalizing property is reprehensible and illegal. But it is incomparable to the scope and breadth of organized violence demonstrated by the extreme right


You see folks, the left is NOW the moral group here. Interesting. Do we constantly hold them to the same moral standards the right has to embrace? If so, the Alinsky tactics won't work. Dems LOVE to push the fact that, because they have no morals, it is OK for them to be heathens.

Second, notice how the guy that shoots up a baseball field full of Rs is now a "lone wolf", but the Nazi last week all of the sudden represents every Trump voter. Nice!

The last lie is how ANTIFA, which is magically showing up all over American to silence opposition is, in fact, not well organized. However, the 200 Nazis that showed up last week....well that's a fine-tuned killing machine that has been burning cities, attacking Hillary supporters, and killing people every weekend. All those lawsuits now against cities that allowed ANTIFA to attack innocent civilians aren't real either. That was really the Nazis!

I hope they keep pushing this. I really do.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19514 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:06 am to
In other words:

"Antifa doesn't really represent us, but you guys are all robe and hood wearing goose steppers."
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48344 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:06 am to
ANTIFA is the same as BLM and Occupy Wall Street. They are funded by Clinton and Soros.

Kessler is a Leftist who is trying to sheep-dip himself as a Nazi so that he can do false flag stuff.

The real fight is between the "America First" led by Trump vs. Globalist Interests First represented by the Dems, the International Left and most of the US Republican Party.

25 years ago there was a real difference between the Dem and GOP parties. Not that much difference now. Both major parties are Globalist.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
17980 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:07 am to
Wait,
When did they give up on violence? Did this just happen today?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:

. But it is incomparable to the scope and breadth of organized violence demonstrated by the extreme right


LOL. Where?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17477 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:09 am to
quote:


I'm starting to see this theme now in the AM and Social Media.


Fify. No more main stream media. ANTIFA media.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 9:25 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67887 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:12 am to
Damn my lyin' eyes!
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:13 am to
quote:

and occasionally violent groups such as antifa

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50285 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

When did they give up on violence? Did this just happen today?


According to the article it was many years ago.

All the violence the last few years you saw was some other political party.

When BLM showed up at the White House, then burned cities and killed cops, then went back to the White House, that was just more peace talks.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19045 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:18 am to
I love that a violent group like ANTIFA whose slogan is to kill Nazis is portrayed as only occasionally violent.


Edit: this is what propaganda looks like.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 9:20 am
Posted by Bigtime92
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Member since Jan 2017
3688 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Why The American Left Gave Up On Political Violence


Why The American Media Gave Up On Journalism
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:24 am to
The person who wrote that article is one ignorant son of a bitch.

MAGA
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146712 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:31 am to
Then why do the MSM and democrats (and some purely dumbass or desperate for power- GOPe) actually think that ANTIFA is doing good and fighting the nazi KKK hate groups?

One of the democrat think tanks says Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy (Mostly Veteran involvement) and traditional catholics are the enemy (a hate group)

Scroll down on the sub menu for all of the hate groups.

LINK

Their campaign theme is a race and cultural divisive war. How shocking. Can't you feel Obama and ValJar behind the scenes? Yet, the democrats refuse to ID mosques that are HAMAs and muslim brotherhood front groups.

They are nucking futs.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68212 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Antifa is mostly anarchist in nature; its members are suspicious and dismissive of the left’s embrace of government institutions.

Wut?

quote:

More important, it is loosely banded, disorganized and low scale. Brawling on campuses, throwing rocks or vandalizing property is reprehensible and illegal. But it is incomparable to the scope and breadth of organized violence demonstrated by the extreme right

Is the author simply lying or ignorant? Oh, I see, the guy is way over in Tel Aviv. He's clueless and a world away.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by Jimmydatiger
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:48 am to
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This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48344 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:52 am to
Thank you, Sir. It should be no surprise that I'm right on this issue. After all, I am a Medium.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

the willingness to employ organized violence to achieve political goals remains a signature quality of only one side. And it’s not the left.




obvious conservatives from February this year

quote:

Yet all of this falls well short of the methodical, organized and strategic violence and incitement embraced by right-wing extremists, whose leaders profess faith in the necessity of the fight.


the most chilling and terrible example of "right" violence the past decade or so was a guy ramming a car into a crowd

not exactly "methodical, organized, and strategic"
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:14 am to
i have to add this, too

quote:

occasionally violent groups such as antifa, which have clashed with right-wing protesters, are worrisome. But they are not the same as their counterparts on the right. Antifa is mostly anarchist in nature; its members are suspicious and dismissive of the left’s embrace of government institutions.


quote:

“Sovereign citizens” are armed to the teeth and willing to challenge officials


SPLC on sov cits (who are CUH-RAZY)

quote:

Sovereigns believe that they get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore, and they don't think they should have to pay taxes.


quote:

It is impossible to know how many sovereigns there are in the U.S. today, in part because there is no central leadership and no organized group that members can join.


quote:

The weapon of choice for sovereign citizens is paper.


you don't get more "anarchist" (and i mean REAL anarchy) than the crazy arse sovereign citizens

it's hilarious to me how wapo is like "antifa isn't really liberal b/c it's a loose collection of anarchist" and then the primary driver of violence from the "Right" is....a loose collection of real anarchists
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:46 am to
I like how James Hodgkinson was a lone wolf, but Dylann Roof is an example of the well organized violent right movement.

This has to be one big troll job
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422428 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:51 am to
it's just in/out group identification

same with justifying violence against political opponents

"it's OK because we're the good guys and we'd never use censorship for evil. they're the BAD guys and must be stopped. BAMN"
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