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re: (Why Louisiana stays poor) Is this video accurate? Old but if it’s inaccurate, how so?
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:22 pm to Azkiger
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:22 pm to Azkiger
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Black families were doing better in the 60s than they are today (with respect to income, education levels, incarceration rates, etc.), are we more prejudice towards minorities today than we were 60 years ago?
So Louisiana’s black population is the reason why we have not
Implemented meaningful tort reform
Invested in infrastructure needed to be more attractive to outside industries
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Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:23 pm to Boaty_McBoatface
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PBS video on Louisiana’s business/tax system.
This is more agit-prop by "Together Louisiana" which is a Marxist, anti-business, anti-growth, anti-capitalistic PAC.
Stop giving them even a minute of your time.
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I’m a conservative btw but there’s got to be an explanation for why Louisiana is so pathetic.
1. Corruption
2. Anti-business politicians still have a lot of sway and that fosters an anti-growth/anti-business climate - FFS most of the best jobs in this state are government jobs. Mississippi and Alabama (much less Texas) are kicking our asses drawing new, great jobs
3. Extraordinarly poorly educated and low skill/unskilled labor pool
4. Relatively high corporate taxes, overall
These "breaks" you see highlighted are only measures to try to hold onto what we have, because we ain't getting any new businesses anytime soon without fixing 1, 2, 3 and 4. And nobody seems to want to move in that direction.
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:32 pm to mikelowery1911
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Could your answer be an example of a bigger reason why Louisiana stays poor?
It certainly could be but it’s also safe to say that having kids outside of marriages, dropping out of school, committing crimes and being unemployed all but guarantee failure.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:44 pm to Ace Midnight
If this board is a good representative cross section of the population I would say poor educational standards along with a massive endemic persecution complex have a great deal to do with it.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:03 pm to CDawson
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Fatherless homes
Violent crime
Government dependency
High school drop out rates.
Fatherless homes is unfortunately nothing that governance or anyone outside the family can prevent. What we could do is reduce sentences related to drug charges as misdemeanors requiring fines. This would allow us to actually free up prisoners and go a long way toward fixing the family unit.
Government dependence is more so the end result of bad parenting and an improper education than it is about willingly being dependent (contrary to what you may be told on here). Workfare programs can be prove effective so long as the politicians let them work as intended.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:04 pm to CenlaLowell
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Are you trying to say Louisiana stays poor because of black people????
Nope. I'm not "trying" to say anything.
I'm saying it. All you need do is look at the link provided.
Yeah yeah. I get it. You'll refuse to accept reality. It is what it is.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:25 pm to ShortyRob
First off. Happy New Year ShortyRob. God bless you and your family.
I understand that Louisiana has one of the highest percentages of Blacks. But the link also shows states that have a relatively high (over 25%) black population and they are doing better that Louisiana.
I'm not going to say that Blacks have higher poverty rates is not a major factor. But if were being honest, it isnt the only factor.
There are plenty of "conservatives" who vote Blue. I believe the problem is that many Louisianans WANT to fit the conservative ideal, but when their pet social issues/projects/etc. are threatened by tax cuts, they revert back to their liberal ideology.
TLDR. Many people in Louisiana are not REAL conservatives. They are Republican until the going gets tough.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:43 pm to volod
My conservative based sentiments as well. As a native Mississippian it’s been eye opening seeing “Republicans” vote for Dems here due to their individual financial connections with a Dem candidate or their ties to a government job or their association with a plaintiff attorney. The North/South cultural or religious divide is unique also.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:37 pm to volod
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Fatherless homes is unfortunately nothing that governance or anyone outside the family can prevent.
The government incentivized fatherless homes for decades and it has been effective. The government is a large part of the problem as it relates to the destruction of the nuclear family.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 10:38 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Who is texridder's conservative alter?
ShortyRob
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:13 am to volod
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Fatherless homes is unfortunately nothing that governance or anyone outside the family can prevent.
Except you have government programs that literally encourage fatherless homes by reducing aid to 2 parent households.
And the drug issue you mentioned.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:27 am to cave canem
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No more so than any other southern state.
Populist politicians explain the rest.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 4:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Populist politicians explain the rest.
If being honest I would say that is a big part of it primarily the way they played the parts of the state and peoples against one another for a century, this led to zero unity and the I gotta get mine attitude by all the local gov units.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:09 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Who is texridder's conservative alter?
I know you've asked before but you see. Part of the fun of this is that it drives Tex fricking batty that I don't say because:
He knows I know. That's why he cleaned up all instances of the use of the word pitiable after called on it(I assume you're aware of this part?).
But. He's got enough doubt that I know that he wants me to say so that he can try and rehabilitate the appearance once I name him.
So. Instead. I will continue to frick with him.
But it is funny as hell to watch.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 6:33 am to Boaty_McBoatface
Was bullshite when it was posted on a daily basis before.
bullshite now.
bullshite now.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:07 am to udtiger
In the field I work in I have seen many of our employees make some foolish life choices that come back to bite off their asses,both white and black employees. Most of these guys let their emotions get the best of them. Many have inherited houses and property and have done stupid things that have got them a permanent home in Angola and then lost everything that their parents and grandparents have worked for. Culture is a factor. In this case it is a negative factor.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:35 am to Boaty_McBoatface
As late as 1900 the majority of jobs for men in La were fishing and farming. You didn't need to be literate. Then when the offshore oil business came along the demand was still for physical labor. The big oil companies brought in engineers from out of state. I noticed in the 60s that the smart kids in New Iberia did not have French last names. Their dads were brought into the state by Shell, Texaco and Esso.
Most of the toolpushers, roustabouts and downhole men were uneducated because their parents saw no need for schooling.
Today, going to college is as common as graduating from HS was in the 50s. So today's college educated kids often leave the state for better paying jobs.
Most of the toolpushers, roustabouts and downhole men were uneducated because their parents saw no need for schooling.
Today, going to college is as common as graduating from HS was in the 50s. So today's college educated kids often leave the state for better paying jobs.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:46 am to Zach
I renember Garland Robinette doing an investigative report back in the late 1970's for WWL on the overall state of LA education and it disturbed the frick out of him even though he was born and raised in Boutte...then he tells this to an old doctor friend of his who does not act surprised....this is nothing new he tells him. The ooliticis have a vested interest in keepi g the overall populace relatively poor and as stupid as possible.
This cuts across party lines....a lot of the Republicans in this state were marinated in the world of the populist Louisiana that had been brewing since the age of Huey.
This cuts across party lines....a lot of the Republicans in this state were marinated in the world of the populist Louisiana that had been brewing since the age of Huey.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:08 pm to volod
This reminds me of when JBE threatened TOPPS. Many conservatives were raising hell, and calling it a "good" government program. I was all on board for axing that shite, and I had two kids in college, on TOPPS, at the time.
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