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re: Why is this board pro-Russia and Putin all of a sudden?

Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35897 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Sort of like determining who is "good/bad" based solely off of one sides rhetoric.

I agree. Who is doing that? It’s certainly not me
Posted by 904
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:24 pm to
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I'd imagine that he prefers the administration that's stopped funding the military efforts of the country he's decided to invade, which is also the same administration that he tried to assist to get into office in our last election.


Why do you support marxism?



> Russia is at war with Ukraine.
> Previous administration gives Ukraine stuff that makes them stronger and harder to fight and levies tariffs on Russia.
> New administration stops giving that stuff to Ukraine.

Therefore, Russia likes new administration better.



Where is the disconnect here?



This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 2:27 pm
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4024 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:26 pm to
Drumph has been attacking allies and embracing enemies from the jump. He looks like he should be a villain in a Scooby Doo episode.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55430 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:29 pm to
I think his question was why do you support Marxism.


Its a valid question.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35715 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:30 pm to
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They're clearly the aggressor in Ukraine for the last decade

Why were National Guard members deployed to Ukraine in 2016 to "train Ukrainians how to fight Russian"? Or were my friends and coworkers in the Oklahoma National Guard just lying to me and actually at Club Med?

Why was the US running gain-of-function and advanced bioweapons research at labs in Ukraine to avoid US oversight and regulations?

Why did the USA fund, plan and successfully carry out a color revolution in Ukraine to install a puppet government and international money laundering machine led by a Soros-approved entertainer as its "leader"?

...

You act like this board is all "pro-Russia" like the other 40 OPs that are never seen on this board who start this exact thread at least twice a week... but you are only armed with the narrative and oblivious to the facts.

So hear us, please. We are not pro-Russia, for the umpteen-thousandth time. frick Russia and frick Putin. But we are also not Pro-Zelenskyy, the same Zelenskyy that laundered 100,000,000,000 back to the corrupt US politicians who sent it, the same Zelenskyy who wants to cancel elections to remain in power, and the same Zelenskyy that is going to suffer an unimaginable fate when eventually "disappeared" by the Kelremlin, for his role in the more nefarious acts of the war including the assassination via car bomb of Darya Dugina, the journalist daughter of Aleksandr Dugin who is a close personal friend and advisor to Vladimir Putin. Or did you miss that one too, because the mainstream media buried it? Did you miss that US intelligence confirmed that Kyiv was behind the murder?

Don't view things through such a truncated and binary perspective. Great evil has been done on all sides, by all sides.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35897 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:32 pm to
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the more nefarious acts of the war including the assassination via car bomb of Darya Dugina, the journalist daughter of Aleksandr Dugin who is a close personal friend and advisor to Vladimir Putin

This we can all agree on. I assume it was a case of mistaken identity/expecting to have argon himself in the car, but it’s still chicken shite.

But the Slavs love themselves some political assassinations.
Posted by 904
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:34 pm to
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I think his question was why do you support Marxism.


Its a valid question.




What have I posted that would indicate that I am a Marxist?

I clearly denounced Russia for aligning themselves with communist governments in this post, unless you don't know what Marxism is.

The trolls are here.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78390 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:35 pm to
Zelensky didn’t testify that Biden’s and Hunter were corrupt and now they are on Trump grudge list.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38838 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:36 pm to
No "all of a sudden". Many of us realized way back that our worst enemy is truly "within". It started with the vast expansion of the Socialist Deep State Bureaucracy under Obama, and they flexed their Fascist muscle when Trump and MAGA threatened their total takeover. They are Globalist and will surrender our Constitutional Sovereignty to a Globalist Government Apparatus. Transnational Progressive as it were, for lack of a better comprehensive descriptor.

Putin knows this as well, and though we are economic competitors, we both resist Globalist hegemony, of the which the EU (which desired to essentially annex Ukraine into their Globalist family) is the point of their spear. Along with the Dem Party here. The CCP was in the catbird's seat with their vast people, economic power, manufacturing stranglehold and totalitarian governance, so once US Sovereignty went down, they'd take first spot and run the Globalist show. No more, as their game was outed.

"The enemy of your enemy is your friend". And outside of that, I watched a video on the numbers and ability of nukes possessed by the US and Russia. Anybody that seriously f's with Russia risks being turned into zombieland. Period. That means us to. Nobody wants war, except the Globalists, who don't give a damn about loss of life. Truth be told, they plan on serious depopulation anyway.

This is not rocket science, just dirty ideological struggle for absolute Authoritarian power and/or Freedom. Think I'll go with Freedom.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55430 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:37 pm to
No, I think you do support marxism.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37649 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:39 pm to
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What have I posted that would indicate that I am a Marxist?
It's just the poli board version of throwing shite. The plus side is that it usually self-identifies the accuser as not worth wasting time on.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86135 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:41 pm to
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just dirty ideological struggle for absolute Authoritarian power and/or Freedom. Think I'll go with Freedom.


I don't think "freedom" is one of the teams here
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9375 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Why were National Guard members deployed to Ukraine in 2016 to "train Ukrainians how to fight Russian"? Or were my friends and coworkers in the Oklahoma National Guard just lying to me and actually at Club Med?

Why was the US running gain-of-function and advanced bioweapons research at labs in Ukraine to avoid US oversight and regulations?

Why did the USA fund, plan and successfully carry out a color revolution in Ukraine to install a puppet government and international money laundering machine led by a Soros-approved entertainer as its "leader"?

...

You act like this board is all "pro-Russia" like the other 40 OPs that are never seen on this board who start this exact thread at least twice a week... but you are only armed with the narrative and oblivious to the facts.

So hear us, please. We are not pro-Russia, for the umpteen-thousandth time. frick Russia and frick Putin. But we are also not Pro-Zelenskyy, the same Zelenskyy that laundered 100,000,000,000 back to the corrupt US politicians who sent it, the same Zelenskyy who wants to cancel elections to remain in power, and the same Zelenskyy that is going to suffer an unimaginable fate when eventually "disappeared" by the Kelremlin, for his role in the more nefarious acts of the war including the assassination via car bomb of Darya Dugina, the journalist daughter of Aleksandr Dugin who is a close personal friend and advisor to Vladimir Putin. Or did you miss that one too, because the mainstream media buried it? Did you miss that US intelligence confirmed that Kyiv was behind the murder?

Don't view things through such a truncated and binary perspective. Great evil has been done on all sides, by all sides.


Don't be bringing facts up in here.

Or the fact that the three regions that Russia has taken control over are ethnic Russians who wanted Russia to come in and stop the aggression from the US installed Ukrainian regime since 2014. The installed actor has canceled elections, killed journalist, laundered money, banned certain churches, etc. Yet we will have morons like the OP paroting mainstream ignorance.
Posted by 904
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:47 pm to
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It's just the poli board version of throwing shite. The plus side is that it usually self-identifies the accuser as not worth wasting time on.


Fair, thanks.

I spend far more of my time on other boards, but some pro-Russia comments piqued my attention and thought it felt sudden and out of place. Apparently a lot of posters here just hate Ukraine as much as Russia, and a minority in this thread actually do support Putin and Russia. At the very least, it's been insightful.
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Again, how dare nations act freely to joint alliances of their choosing.


It's funny how the same people who use this as a talking point lose their mind when Romania, Hungary, Belarus, or Moldova act freely to form alliances with Russia or elect a leader who broaches the possibility of acting freely to leave a joint alliance.

The same people are going apocalyptic over any mention of the US freely joining an alliance with Russia. It doesn't matter that the US and Russia have never fought a hot war. And God forbid the US decides to act freely to leave a joint alliance with nations that have previously fought wars against the United States. We need to forget about the millions of Americans killed by NATO "allies" England, Germany, Italy, Austria, etc. But we must never end the Cold War with Russia. That would be treason.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13031 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:51 pm to
What has he done to get on anyones bad side. They were provoked and drawn into a needless war. It needs to end. Everyone is worse off for it to continue. Zalensky is a puppet.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9375 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:51 pm to
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Fair, thanks.

I spend far more of my time on other boards, but some pro-Russia comments piqued my attention and thought it felt sudden and out of place. Apparently a lot of posters here just hate Ukraine as much as Russia, and a minority in this thread actually do support Putin and Russia. At the very least, it's been insightful.



You're just a moron troll who lacks any understanding of the situation there, and worse yet, doesn't care to.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53682 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:52 pm to
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I'd like them both to lose. Zelensky is a dictator and a thief. Putin is a murderer and a thug.... it's ok to hate both of them.

Z is no more a dictator than FDR was during WW2, but he’s certainly a shameless charlatan, and Ukraine could use a new voice.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67034 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:52 pm to
Do you not get what’s going on? Russia’s main port is being threatened and those threats keep being escalated by the western communist countries like us, England, France and Germany. Of course they’re happy Trump is back and trying to de escalate this insanity which is all being done to stuff the pockets of political Thieves.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35897 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:52 pm to
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Romania, Hungary, Belarus, or Moldova act freely to form alliances with Russia

Romania and Hungary are NATO members. But I wouldn’t and don’t lose my mind when any of these nations act in their own self interest to deal with the biggest nation in their neighborhood.

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The same people are going apocalyptic over any mention of the US freely joining an alliance with Russia.

I wouldn’t oppose this at all. I’ve said on this board before that Russia and India are our true allies against China. We need both in the war that WILL inevitably come.

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And God forbid the US decides to act freely to leave a joint alliance with nations that have previously fought wars against the United States

We benefit from NATO. I don’t support leaving it. There is no reason to. We have our cake, and eat it too already. We run the damned thing.

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