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re: Why I think Trump is in this until regime change

Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:59 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 5:59 am to
You are such a disappointment on this issue.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:02 am to
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in the end Islamist will still rule Iran but republicans will lose the midterms because affordability will get worse


Its probably dumber than Napoleon and Hitler trying to conquer Russia while trying to keep all of Europe at bay, considering the time constraints of the midterms and that this doesnt benefit America one iota. The risk : reward is so bad.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 6:06 am
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:11 am to
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brother, you and a lot others need to wake up. There will be no regime change. I can guarantee you the administration planned on it, but it was a gamble and they lost. What’s unfortunate is the Chairman of the JCS will probably be the fall guy (I’m thinking sometime this Summer). He was actually the guy recommending against the war because the regime was always unlikely to fall.


Muslims are a tough out because they believe Allah supports them even when it’s obvious they are getting hammered and punished for their deeds killing 45,000 of their own people

Posted by TulsaSooner78
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:11 am to
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I’m about 80% sure that he will keep his foot on the gas until there is actual regime change. And if there is, it will occur by the end of May. By the end of April we will invade, and it will only take two or three weeks to have substantial control of the country and for the invasion to turn into a few dozen manhunts.


Last night he said "2 - 3 more weeks". I took that to mean he's expecting we'll either get a deal done OR "bomb them back to the stone age" all within that 2 - 3 week period.

Also, Trump said last night that regime change was not our objective, but it happened anyway.

So regime change is done.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:11 am to
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Trump may die in prison under this scenario - they nearly accomplished it last time and he didnt do anything nearly this stupid.
Trumps not going to prison but this will next 2 months will define his legacy.

He has to make a decision - Americas future or Israel's perceived safety first.

If he doesn't get affordability under control fast then republicans will lose badly in midterms and then they'll impeach him and run out the clock until 2028.

If diesel stays high then every single thing in the country is about to get more expensive, it's just the nature of logistics.

I'm still a Trump fan but I'm not blind. I know what's going to happen if he doesn't improve the economy, you all know. It's just whether or not you want to believe it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:14 am to
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Madness. They believe they are fighting to save their civilization and their religion. 6 or 7 others (including the Romans several times) also tried and failed

I think it's very likely that more than half the people of Iran are opposed to the regime. Of course, when a conqueror comes in and tries to take over a place and enslave the people they will resist fanatically. That is not the case here.

The conquering force would be the Persian people as represented by the "new regime". The IRGC has a lot of fanatics, but even they are not completely made up of fanatics. Most of them are probably climbers - that is, people who are trying to make a career of it.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:15 am to
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So regime change is done.

If so, only Maga will interpret it that way.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:21 am to
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Muslims are a tough out because they believe Allah supports them even when it’s obvious they are getting hammered and punished for their deeds killing 45,000 of their own people


Crazy to me that we're willing to try to once again fight the Muslims in their own country to install leaders we prefer for the death of 45,000 people but meanwhile we had over 70,000 Americans die of fentanyl last year and we don't do anything to Mexico or the cartels.

You really want to invest in our children future? Eliminate the third world drug loads at our door step. I don't give a frick about Iran and I don't think you can make these people be someone else. It didn't work in Afghanistan, it didn't work in Iraq.

Then are we or Europes going to take all the eventual refugees of this war?

The negatives of this operation for the US greatly outweigh the positives when you understand the gravity of the midterms. I hope Iran actually installs a democracy. If not this was literally all for nothing and a complete betrayal for the American first crowd.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:24 am to
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Last night he said "2 - 3 more weeks". I took that to mean he's expecting we'll either get a deal done OR "bomb them back to the stone age" all within that 2 - 3 week period.

Also, Trump said last night that regime change was not our objective, but it happened anyway.

So regime change is done.


Watch what he does, not what he says.

We didnt just spend billions staging this and getting 70k special ops guys in position not to use them.

He told us to watch Mark Levins terrible show about retrieving the uranium. His first phone call during the bombings was to Laura Loomer. His #1 donor was Miriam Adelson. Hes going in
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 6:27 am
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:25 am to
Trump said we already changed the regime 3 times. Is the 4th time the trick?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:26 am to
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The conquering force would be the Persian people as represented by the "new regime". The IRGC has a lot of fanatics, but even they are not completely made up of fanatics. Most of them are probably climbers - that is, people who are trying to make a career of it.
You think most Islamic men are not radicals?

You think it's just a career decision?

Bruh, this is insanity that you're saying stuff like this with any confidence. It's been a radical Islamic country for almost half a century. Everyone under 60
Years old in Iran has been raised in a sharia law country.

You think the men don't believe? You think they'll over throw their fathers and grandfather in the name of the west? The same place they're seeing child castration and the LGBTQIA+ agenda?

I'm at a loss for words, but you really should educate yourself more about the populous of Iran. It's not full of ambitious young men trying to climbs corporate ladder.

It's full of men who follow a religion, religiously.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:28 am to
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You think the men don't believe? You think they'll over throw their fathers and grandfather in the name of the west? The same place they're seeing child castration and the LGBTQIA+ agenda?


Especially after we blew up their Pope and his family in a sneak attack and then tomahawked a girls school, killing 170 innocents while our partner leveled Gaza and is now leveling Lebanon.

Try to look at it from the perspective of a Shia Muslim. We are not the good guys. Even if some of the younger men supported regime change 2 months ago, our actions have shrank these numbers considerably by now.
This post was edited on 4/2/26 at 6:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:29 am to
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Unless there are 30-40 miraculous resurrections, and a one-legged, gay, cleric in a coma transubstantiates into a dynamic leader, the regime is changed.

Oh no...
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:31 am to
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Like I said. You’re a fricktard.

No SmoothBrain, you said "You’re suck a fricktard."

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:35 am to
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You are such a disappointment on this issue.
Well dog gone it.
Posted by AUCom96
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:36 am to
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Trumps not going to prison but this will next 2 months will define his legacy.


He defined his legacy the second he started this idiotic war. The GOP had an uphill battle in the midterms prior. Now it's hard to see how it's not a guaranteed sweep. They'll impeach him again and this time, they may get conviction. Now the GOP has lost most of the independent strength that elected Trump and the neo-cons taking back party power is going to push that wave back into apathy or over to outright socialism if this war stretches out and the economy tanks. I think Netanyahu has the goods on the guy because this war is political suicide.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:36 am to
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Unless there are 30-40 miraculous resurrections, and a one-legged, gay, cleric in a coma transubstantiates into a dynamic leader, the regime is changed.


Different people. Same hostilities.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:36 am to
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regime change

I will note:
A failed state is regime change.

If Iran collapses into local fighting like Syria and Somalia... a terrorist hotbed.

Thats a different regime than a nation sponsoring terrorism while building and exporting missiles... and building a nuke...
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:37 am to
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He has to make a decision - Americas future or Israel's perceived safety first.

If he doesn't get affordability under control fast then republicans will lose badly in midterms and then they'll impeach him and run out the clock until 2028.

If diesel stays high then every single thing in the country is about to get more expensive, it's just the nature of logistics.

I'm still a Trump fan but I'm not blind. I know what's going to happen if he doesn't improve the economy, you all know. It's just whether or not you want to believe it.


You are correct. He walks away without a regime change, then Iran has a foothold on the Strait and a big chip in the global energy price game. There will be little to no hope of getting affordability under control with high energy prices.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
3299 posts
Posted on 4/2/26 at 6:38 am to
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the regime is changed.


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