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re: Why exactly are some Conservatives Pro-Russia?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:03 pm to Grinder
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:03 pm to Grinder
The left and deep state have lied about everything. How do we know they haven't been lying about Russia? They haven't done anything to us and after seeing their military in action, they aren't a threat to us or anyone in Europe. Plus, they haven't stollen billions from the tax payers like Zalynsky.
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:03 pm to Grinder
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I just don’t get it.
It has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia. It has to do with being against the Deepstate/Globalist who have been working for decades to have a One World Government. You are either for the Deepstate/Soros or against them. Simple as that
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:04 pm to Grinder
Conservatives should not be pro-Russia. I think part of it, is how unlikeable Zelensky is - buddy buddy with Biden, constant belittling of how we dont give enough (when we dont *have* to give anything). Zelensky has done his country no favors by alienating conservatives
Russia is part of the US hating alliance spearheaded by China, along with Iran, North Korea and increasingly South Africa and Brazil. I dont get how anyone can call themself a patriot and be pro-Russia
Now, that does not mean we need to continually give aid to Ukraine. Over the course of this war, giving Ukraine some military equipment to weaken Russia has an argument for it. The fiscal aid, which is about equal to the military aid (which was mostly older stock, so meh) should have never been sent
The military aid we did send, should have stopped being sent when it was clear Ukraine was spent. We are a year and a half removed from the geniuses in the last administration sending them newer equipment, and convincing everyone that their "big" counter offensive would beat Russia. They were never going to beat Russia outright on the battlefield. Defensive war of attrition with negotiated peace should have been the plan
Russia is part of the US hating alliance spearheaded by China, along with Iran, North Korea and increasingly South Africa and Brazil. I dont get how anyone can call themself a patriot and be pro-Russia
Now, that does not mean we need to continually give aid to Ukraine. Over the course of this war, giving Ukraine some military equipment to weaken Russia has an argument for it. The fiscal aid, which is about equal to the military aid (which was mostly older stock, so meh) should have never been sent
The military aid we did send, should have stopped being sent when it was clear Ukraine was spent. We are a year and a half removed from the geniuses in the last administration sending them newer equipment, and convincing everyone that their "big" counter offensive would beat Russia. They were never going to beat Russia outright on the battlefield. Defensive war of attrition with negotiated peace should have been the plan
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:04 pm to John Barron
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It has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia. It has to do with being against the Deepstate/Globalist who have been working for decades to have a One World Government. You are either for the Deepstate/Soros or against them. Simple as that
Great summary of the ignorant NPC talking points. On brand as usual.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:04 pm to Wade Garrett
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love Putin so much
I’m not surprised that you don’t get it.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:04 pm to Rebel
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2) Nothing in that article even suggests Daniel is a "conservative"?
It’s literally in the first line. Reading comprehension much?
Daniel Martindale’s decision to become a spy comes amid a growing ultraconservative embrace of Russian values
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:05 pm to SkiUtah420
That link is 100% a psyop through the media.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:05 pm to Grinder
Because the current Ukraine regime was violently installed, against the will of the people, in 2014 by the Barry Sotero state department
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:05 pm to AggieHank86
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In very simplified form, many entire-rational "conservatives" have decided that fiscal restraint is more important to them than are our international obligations to our European allies.
We don't have any obligations to any non-allied country and probably not that many to allied countries. There was never any point to sending endless money to Ukraine. Especially because it was a war they could never win.
If you want to support Ukraine, send them your paycheck or go fight. Leave us the frick out of it.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:05 pm to Grinder
If someone, maybe even you, could explain me in detail what makes Putin such a bad guy then maybe I could reconsider my position. We all know what makes Zelensky a POS.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:06 pm to Feelthebarn
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Because the current Ukraine regime was violently installed
And here is another great example of an NPC.
Literally has no idea what he's talking about but says it with such confidence
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
They're generally clustered in their respective republics.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Only 72% of the population of the Russian Federation are ethnic Russians. Only 80% of them are of "European" descent. By contrast, less than 4% of the population of Ukraine is of non-European descent, most of whom are Crimean Tatars with centuries of ties to Crimea.quote:I don't think I've ever heard Russia described this way,
It's also generally very homogenous.
Approximately 10% of the population of the Russian Federation is Muslim ... a far higher percentage than that of the US.
If the "Russia is a White, Christian nation" rhetoric is the actual basis for anyone supporting Russia over Ukraine, those folks are backing the wrong horse.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
While you and the Biden bros were fixated on Russia, the Chinese have been dominating outposts around the globe such as Central America, the Arctic, the Middle East, and Africa. China was allowed to operate without any constraints basically since 2021. Trump is attempting to stop and reverse these advances and needs this Ukraine quagmire resolved in order to do that.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:07 pm to TigahTeeth
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maybe even you, could explain me in detail what makes Putin such a bad guy then maybe I could reconsider my position
The fact that he's currently invading a sovereign nation without being provoked should be enough, but the fact that this is the last in a series of similar aggressions since 2008 should seal the deal.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:07 pm to Lima Whiskey
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They're generally clustered in their respective republics.
That is the opposite of being homogeneous
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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without being provoked
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Great summary
Thanks. I know you are uneducated on this topic. This might help counselor
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:08 pm to WildManGoose
Some want us to believe we're obligated to go broke defending europe from external threats while they commit suicide via population replacement at which point they will be the enemy.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:09 pm to Riverside
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Trump is attempting to stop and reverse these advances and needs this Ukraine quagmire resolved in order to do th
There is no reason he couldn't do both at the same time, especially since China and Russia cozied up post-invasion.
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