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re: Why does the left always give DJT hell for draft dodging Vietnam?

Posted on 1/17/25 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
989 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 12:32 pm to
I'll bet Ali's legacy will hold up better in history than Trumps.
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
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989 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 12:44 pm to
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I can’t image being a parent or a kid between 1964-1975. Wondering if your child will be selected. Will your child want to serve their country knowing they would go.

Being a "kid" during those years I can tell you it was a very unsettling feeling to say the list. I was like a sword hanging over your head. Some of us had high draft numbers and did not end up having to go. But you never knew for sure. We understood how people who had influence took advantage of it, but would never say anything derogatory about anybody that served. Its shameful.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:02 pm to
a cornerstone of the gops campaign against kerry was the swift boat "yeah sure he went to vietnam but he was a pussy"
cant comment on how i would have handled it. was an infant during vietnam, never faced a draft. my dad said his dad, who served several years in ww2, told him to do whatever it took not to go, said war is hell. he had just finished medical school and wound up working for the navy in boston in some capacity evaluating returning soldiers. got canned for denying some high ranking officer demanding full disability for what amounted to a broken wrist.
wound up getting reinstated on the senate floor by i think jim sasser from tennessee
id never criticize anyone who served, and im reluctant to do same to those that figured out a way to not go. its a little easier to mock the wealthy fortunate sons who didn't. and anyone from that era wo didn't serveand runs for office should be prepared to face tough questions
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8545 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:02 pm to
NOOOOO. When you graduated from college your exemption went away and you were back in the pool. I had to go to the custom House down on canal street twice for physicals after graduation.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11661 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Because it's Trump and they will find anything they can to obsess over and criticize him for.

The only one of the last five presidents who served in the military was George W. Bush. Yet, Dan Rather and 60 Minutes ran a hit piece during the 2004 election attacking him for allegedly pulling favors to get into the National Guard. As always the media ran with negative story about a Republican that was not verified and later debunked. Rather an the producer Mary Mapes got humiliated, but mission accomplished they aired a hit piece on the Republican candidate for president. Contrast that with how hard the media fought the Hunter Biden laptop story.
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Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
Remind me when Obama, Hillary, Biden or Harris served.



This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78916 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:35 pm to
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I'll bet Ali's legacy will hold up better in history than Trumps.



I never learned about Ali in school, but I did about every president. Why are you liberals retarded?


Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25445 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:37 pm to
I would take it one step further than that.

Why do people on the Left get mad at people for using the rules to the full extent to help them. Its like they get mad because they didnt think of it. But the rules are their for everybody.


Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23434 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:39 pm to
Why does the left always give DJT hell for _______________________.



Insert anything these morons can come up with above
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
1831 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:43 pm to
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Why does the left always give DJT hell for draft dodging Vietnam?


Considering Biden did literally the exact same thing, it is even more odd as a means of attack. Biden had multiple deferments due to asthma even though he was a lifeguard and supposed star football player.

The reality is our government was throwing young men into a meat grinder for a meaningless war. I don't blame anybody for getting out of that if they could.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
8666 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:43 pm to
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This same group of people celebrates figures like Muhammad Ali for doing the exact same thing. Weren't they causing all kinds of riots stateside in protest of that war? Tone deaf hypocrisy at its purest form.


Because he’s Republican. They can’t help but contradict themselves to advance their political agenda.

It’s too bad the Obama/Biden legacy will be destroyed on January 20th even after all these years of trying to demonize Trump and Republicans.

They failed.
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
989 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:53 pm to
The only one of the last five presidents who served in the military was George W. Bush. Yet, Dan Rather and 60 Minutes ran a hit piece during the 2004 election attacking him for allegedly pulling favors to get into the National Guard[/quote]
But he DID pull favors to get in the National Guard. Lots of people pulled favors to do so---that's no secret. But you have to hand it to Bush. While serving in the Alabama National Guard, not one Viet Cong invaded the state!
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11904 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:55 pm to
The war was all but won then Walter Cronkite turned commie and the left went full steam against it 100%. In the end the Vietnamese conflict was successful in stopping Chinese military expansion for 70 years running.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
1618 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Remind me when Obama, Hillary, Biden or Harris served.

well obama turned 18 in 1977 and would have missed the vietnam draft
don't think they ever drafted women so hillary and kamala are off the hook
biden likely went the same fortunate son route as trump to avoid service so frick him
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:08 pm to
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I'll bet Ali's legacy will hold up better in history than Trumps.



quote:

I never learned about Ali in school, but I did about every president.



If you never learned about Ali as a kid, your father failed you.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26920 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:08 pm to
That's easy, because you have brave Americans like Richard Blumenthal and Bill Clinton who went to war when they were called upon and fought for this great nation....

Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11315 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:10 pm to
Thank you, for your post. My dad was blind by army standards and never worried but plenty of friends did. I’ve always felt bad for Vietnam vets. Feel like they were called, responded and then the country ignored their needs for years. I imagine I’d be a dove but could see how many enlisted.
Posted by rickyb223
In your walls
Member since Jan 2025
430 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:12 pm to
Fighting any war (unless fending off an invasion) is dumb.

Great way to end up dead or badly maimed just for a lousy pension and worse healthcare.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
15407 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:20 pm to
Did Trump dodge the draft? Yep, as did many with wealth and privilege.
The rest either fled to Canada or went to VN.
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 2:21 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84114 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:22 pm to
When I was a recruiter I’d have ppl like you hang up and say my kid is too good for that. What’s the difference? Again it’s a voluntary military and usually filled by the same families with generations serving.
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