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Why does Reagan get a pass for creating gun free zones?

Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:54 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:54 pm
Dude was perfectly happy to work towards common sense gun control. Made national parks gun free zones.. and some other stuff

LINK

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Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20224 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:56 pm to
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common sense gun control


Wha??? This doesn't exist.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69301 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:57 pm to
Reagan was not a saint. He had some serious mistakes he made as president

1) The massive unfunded, irresponsible mandate known as EMTALA. Hospitals were now forced to serve anyone who walked through those ER doors...and ZERO govt funds were allocated to this costly mandate. The cost instead fell on people in the form of higher premiums and hospital copays

2) Amnesty. Was promised more border security by the dems and the security never came.

3) His sketchy, murky legacy on gun rights.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:57 pm to
Most would chalk it up as a failed experiment.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:58 pm to
Because back then it would have been political suicide for ANY politician to talk about banning weapons or confiscating weapons.

Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.

Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation. Back then, you could work with Dems. Now, they are completely f*cking whacked and demented.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 11:00 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35643 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:59 pm to
This is all I know about Reagan.

YouTube


ETA: then I saw this.
YouTube
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16919 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:29 pm to
One of those links is about waiting periods to allow for background checks in an era before the technology existed to run instant background checks. We have background checks for gun sales now and they are widely supported by firearm liberty advocates. Waiting periods are no longer necessary to conduct such checks.

Reagan also referred to AK-47's as machine guns. This is only true for an infinetismal number of AK-47's and other firearms and there are very strict laws governing their ownership and a finite supply in circulation which make them extraordinarily expensive on top of the regulations making them difficult to own. I likewise haven't heard complaints from the pro-gun contingent regarding these laws. So generally speaking, there is and has been universal agreement in those measures, so what exactly are you talking about?

Now if Reagan wanted to ban semi-automatic rifles on account that they are in the same structural design as AK's yet function exactly the same as other semi-automatic rifles, I for one would be more than happy to call him out and disagree. If he were to believe (he can't comment on it of course bc he's dead) there should still be arbitarary waiting periods for the sole purpose of potentially deterring a "crime of passion" or suicide, I would also happily take issue.

Gun free zones that are unenforeceable (unlike having metal detectors and armed security personnel checking every person upon entrance) are also logically stupid regardless of what Reagan thought at the time. This has been demonstrated empirically on top of the simple applialcation of reason which can illustrate the same.

Those positions Reagan took, right or wrong, are fricking child's play to the rhetoric and gun control aims that emanate from the contemporary left.

Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16573 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:56 pm to
He doesn't and you're dishonest. Try to do better next time kid.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17916 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:52 am to
Same reason he gets a pass for proliferating abortion in our most populous state and later doing jack shite as president to amend his "mistake." Baw was a master propagandist and people are dumb af.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:18 am to
Reagan wasn't perfect

There will never be a perfect President

Three best you can hope for is that even he's done, you feel a President has done more right than wrong and left behind a better place.

So there's no gotcha here.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:22 am to
Why do leftists think that if Reagan did something stupid we would agree with it?

Just another fricking insult
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:04 am to
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Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.

Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation.


None of that us true. None of it.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18259 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:07 am to
Reagan actual record on the 2A was terrible. The Hughes amendment has been one of the worst gun control measures since 1934 GC act. He also started foreign ban on imports as well as gun free zones.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:10 am to
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Reagan

Gets too much credit on positive stuff and not enough criticism on negative stuff.......my arse is more conservative than Reagan.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:33 am to
Man, you people hated Reagan when he was in office.

he was the Trump of his time, according to Progs.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67926 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:35 am to
That's right.

I agree with about 90% of what Reagan did. He wasn't perfect. No one is.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:38 am to
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I agree with about 90% of what Reagan did

Except the stuff about him actually being conservative
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42600 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:01 am to
quote:

quote:
Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.

Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation.
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None of that us true. None of it.


It is perfectly true. DEMs used to be a political party that championed the working man as opposed to the GOP which was primarily an 'uppercrust' protector. Both parties had love of the nation as unchallenged tenets of their message - just with different emphases. We prospered under that arrangement of determining temporary custody of governmental power.

Today, not a single DEM from that time would be welcome in the modern cabal calling itself the DEMOCRAT party. Certainly in the past decade the modern DEM party has become hostage to the radical far left in league with any element that advocates the demise of the America we all knew and loved.

DEMs are a party of lies - you have not a shred of 'common sense' to the extent you do not even know what it means. To you all is narrative = a made up issue to be pressed for temporary political advantage - usually designed exclusively for the next election.

DEMs have not a shred of honor or integrity - none - zero - nada. You don't give a shite about 'children' separated from their parents. Hell, you dont even give a shite about immigrants - to you all they represent is a reservoir of potential easily influenced voter bloc. The only thing you are interested in is political advantage.

DEMs don't give a shite about truth or rule of law. You bend either of these essential elements of a free society to suit your temporary impulse.

DEMs have no value at all. You are a drag of humanity. You are a malevolent element that should be rooted out and shunned.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20391 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:03 am to
Easy question. During the Reagan years we didn't have the very serious threat of widespread efforts to not only control guns but to get rid of the 2A altogether. Times have changed.

Not really sure why you would think 30 years ago applies to anything today.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64349 posts
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:04 am to
Because they work so well?
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