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Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:56 pm to bmy
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common sense gun control
Wha??? This doesn't exist.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:57 pm to bmy
Reagan was not a saint. He had some serious mistakes he made as president
1) The massive unfunded, irresponsible mandate known as EMTALA. Hospitals were now forced to serve anyone who walked through those ER doors...and ZERO govt funds were allocated to this costly mandate. The cost instead fell on people in the form of higher premiums and hospital copays
2) Amnesty. Was promised more border security by the dems and the security never came.
3) His sketchy, murky legacy on gun rights.
1) The massive unfunded, irresponsible mandate known as EMTALA. Hospitals were now forced to serve anyone who walked through those ER doors...and ZERO govt funds were allocated to this costly mandate. The cost instead fell on people in the form of higher premiums and hospital copays
2) Amnesty. Was promised more border security by the dems and the security never came.
3) His sketchy, murky legacy on gun rights.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:57 pm to bmy
Most would chalk it up as a failed experiment.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 10:58 pm to bmy
Because back then it would have been political suicide for ANY politician to talk about banning weapons or confiscating weapons.
Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.
Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation. Back then, you could work with Dems. Now, they are completely f*cking whacked and demented.
Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.
Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation. Back then, you could work with Dems. Now, they are completely f*cking whacked and demented.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:29 pm to bmy
One of those links is about waiting periods to allow for background checks in an era before the technology existed to run instant background checks. We have background checks for gun sales now and they are widely supported by firearm liberty advocates. Waiting periods are no longer necessary to conduct such checks.
Reagan also referred to AK-47's as machine guns. This is only true for an infinetismal number of AK-47's and other firearms and there are very strict laws governing their ownership and a finite supply in circulation which make them extraordinarily expensive on top of the regulations making them difficult to own. I likewise haven't heard complaints from the pro-gun contingent regarding these laws. So generally speaking, there is and has been universal agreement in those measures, so what exactly are you talking about?
Now if Reagan wanted to ban semi-automatic rifles on account that they are in the same structural design as AK's yet function exactly the same as other semi-automatic rifles, I for one would be more than happy to call him out and disagree. If he were to believe (he can't comment on it of course bc he's dead) there should still be arbitarary waiting periods for the sole purpose of potentially deterring a "crime of passion" or suicide, I would also happily take issue.
Gun free zones that are unenforeceable (unlike having metal detectors and armed security personnel checking every person upon entrance) are also logically stupid regardless of what Reagan thought at the time. This has been demonstrated empirically on top of the simple applialcation of reason which can illustrate the same.
Those positions Reagan took, right or wrong, are fricking child's play to the rhetoric and gun control aims that emanate from the contemporary left.
Reagan also referred to AK-47's as machine guns. This is only true for an infinetismal number of AK-47's and other firearms and there are very strict laws governing their ownership and a finite supply in circulation which make them extraordinarily expensive on top of the regulations making them difficult to own. I likewise haven't heard complaints from the pro-gun contingent regarding these laws. So generally speaking, there is and has been universal agreement in those measures, so what exactly are you talking about?
Now if Reagan wanted to ban semi-automatic rifles on account that they are in the same structural design as AK's yet function exactly the same as other semi-automatic rifles, I for one would be more than happy to call him out and disagree. If he were to believe (he can't comment on it of course bc he's dead) there should still be arbitarary waiting periods for the sole purpose of potentially deterring a "crime of passion" or suicide, I would also happily take issue.
Gun free zones that are unenforeceable (unlike having metal detectors and armed security personnel checking every person upon entrance) are also logically stupid regardless of what Reagan thought at the time. This has been demonstrated empirically on top of the simple applialcation of reason which can illustrate the same.
Those positions Reagan took, right or wrong, are fricking child's play to the rhetoric and gun control aims that emanate from the contemporary left.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:56 pm to bmy
He doesn't and you're dishonest. Try to do better next time kid.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:52 am to bmy
Same reason he gets a pass for proliferating abortion in our most populous state and later doing jack shite as president to amend his "mistake." Baw was a master propagandist and people are dumb af.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:18 am to bmy
Reagan wasn't perfect
There will never be a perfect President
Three best you can hope for is that even he's done, you feel a President has done more right than wrong and left behind a better place.
So there's no gotcha here.
There will never be a perfect President
Three best you can hope for is that even he's done, you feel a President has done more right than wrong and left behind a better place.
So there's no gotcha here.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 5:22 am to bmy
Why do leftists think that if Reagan did something stupid we would agree with it?
Just another fricking insult
Just another fricking insult
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:04 am to MMauler
quote:
Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.
Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation.
None of that us true. None of it.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:07 am to bmy
Reagan actual record on the 2A was terrible. The Hughes amendment has been one of the worst gun control measures since 1934 GC act. He also started foreign ban on imports as well as gun free zones.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:10 am to bmy
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Reagan
Gets too much credit on positive stuff and not enough criticism on negative stuff.......my arse is more conservative than Reagan.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:33 am to bmy
Man, you people hated Reagan when he was in office.
he was the Trump of his time, according to Progs.
he was the Trump of his time, according to Progs.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
That's right.
I agree with about 90% of what Reagan did. He wasn't perfect. No one is.
I agree with about 90% of what Reagan did. He wasn't perfect. No one is.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 6:38 am to TrueTiger
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I agree with about 90% of what Reagan did
Except the stuff about him actually being conservative
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:01 am to Ebbandflow
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quote:
Since then, the DNC and the ProgFilth they represent have gone off the far left whackjob deepend.
Now, when a far left whackjob says they want "common sense gun control" we know that they mean gun confiscation.
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None of that us true. None of it.
It is perfectly true. DEMs used to be a political party that championed the working man as opposed to the GOP which was primarily an 'uppercrust' protector. Both parties had love of the nation as unchallenged tenets of their message - just with different emphases. We prospered under that arrangement of determining temporary custody of governmental power.
Today, not a single DEM from that time would be welcome in the modern cabal calling itself the DEMOCRAT party. Certainly in the past decade the modern DEM party has become hostage to the radical far left in league with any element that advocates the demise of the America we all knew and loved.
DEMs are a party of lies - you have not a shred of 'common sense' to the extent you do not even know what it means. To you all is narrative = a made up issue to be pressed for temporary political advantage - usually designed exclusively for the next election.
DEMs have not a shred of honor or integrity - none - zero - nada. You don't give a shite about 'children' separated from their parents. Hell, you dont even give a shite about immigrants - to you all they represent is a reservoir of potential easily influenced voter bloc. The only thing you are interested in is political advantage.
DEMs don't give a shite about truth or rule of law. You bend either of these essential elements of a free society to suit your temporary impulse.
DEMs have no value at all. You are a drag of humanity. You are a malevolent element that should be rooted out and shunned.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 7:03 am to bmy
Easy question. During the Reagan years we didn't have the very serious threat of widespread efforts to not only control guns but to get rid of the 2A altogether. Times have changed.
Not really sure why you would think 30 years ago applies to anything today.
Not really sure why you would think 30 years ago applies to anything today.
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