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re: Why does Fox bring Mark Fuhrman on every time there is Police scandal?
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:03 pm to Vacherie Saint
You think perjuring yourself is above reproach?
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:17 pm to sms151t
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And yet you're an idiot still it's been explained multiple times in this thread why
Stop being stupid
Your line of thinking we need to be pissed at OJ that he took the 5th
I'm fully aware of the excuses being made, as a sworn officer of the law he committed perjury and chose not to open himself to further perjury and obstruction charges by pleading the fifth on the two additional questions.
His perjury on the N-word was already on the record so there really was no need to plead the 5th on that account.
Pleading the 5th was a protection from the additional charges he was likely to find himself facing, imo.
As an aside, I like how you guys are calling me an idiot while saying MF is an 'honest man' for refusing to answer for lying under oath and for refusing to answer as to whether he manufacturered evidence in this case, something he detailed for hours as being common practice in his dealings with "n!&&@$"....
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:19 pm to More&Les
Dude you are so not getting it once the 5th is taken he can't answer anything if he does then everything is fair game what do you not get?
Why do you think they asked him about planting evidence later?
Damn get a clue.
Why do you think they asked him about planting evidence later?
Damn get a clue.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:24 pm to Vacherie Saint
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That said, I agree. Why even bother with him. Ratings, maybe?
Is this 1995?
He's written like 7 true Crime books since the OJ trial...totally resurrected his career.
And was the main catalyst in getting a Kennedy behind bars based on his book re-opening a cold case from the 1970's...Michael Skakel for murdering Martha Moxley in the 1970's.
(Of course after 10 years - he got out, Kennedy and all - hell the police wouldn't even question them back in the 1970's - "we can't impugn a Kennedy")
So your thread is stupid. Old news...if it was 1996 it would be fair to ask, WTF?
It's been over 20 years. Things have changed.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 4:33 pm to sms151t
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Dude you are so not getting it once the 5th is taken he can't answer anything if he does then everything is fair game what do you not get?
Dude, what do you not get, he choose to plead the 5th. The evidence of his perjury as to the use of the N-word was already on the record. If it was only about the N-word then you acknowledge your previous testimony was incorrect and explain it was used for the purpose of giving an accurate account for the book/movie, etc...
The reason he pled the 5th is because he absolutely did not want to open himself up to further charges.
And I don't know who did it but explain the bloody sock not showing up in the original undisturbed crime scene photos but then supposedly being discovered lying on the wide open floor of the master bedroom?
Also, how did a sock being worn get blood soak through the top and bottom in exactly the same pattern and how did the blood from said sock contain a chemical found in blood containment viles?
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:07 pm to BamaChick
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He HAD to take the fifth on ALL questions once he took the fifth on the first question.
A non-defendant witness like Furman can use selective invocation of the Fifth and answer some questions but not others.
Furman was asked if he manufactured or planted evidence in the OJ case, and he pled the Fifth. Hmmm.
He is also the only person who went to prison as a result of the trial.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:46 pm to _Hurricane_
It is baffling. Surely they can find someone else with his expertise that isn't universally known as a racist.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:51 pm to More&Les
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He single handedly destroyed the credibility of the investigation.
There were other people who actually fricked up the investigation. Fung touched the evidence without gloves and put a blanket from Nicole's house on top of her. Some other guy took DNA evidence home with him to sleep on instead of going straight to LAPD.
They fricked up the investigation. Fuhrman shouldn't have lied on the stand and just openly admitted he's said the N-Bomb in the past 10 years. He personally didn't frick up the investigation, just the trial.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:53 pm to More&Les
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Dude, he pled the 5th as to whether he planted evidence.
But that's the trial, not the investigation.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:54 pm to Tigerdev
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he committed perjury when he said he hadn't uttered a racial epithet in the previous decade.
jesus...i'm supposed to remember what I said on a particular day and time 10 years ago?
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:58 pm to sms151t
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I'd say the two NYC detectives that were hit men for the mob is a way bigger scandal, but that's just me.
Or Rodney King, which a juror has said that is the specific reason they let OJ off.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:19 pm to OMLandshark
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But that's the trial, not the investigation.
Still waiting on anyone to explain the absence of the bloody sock in the undisturbed crime scene photos, it's later inclusion with matching blood patterns top and bottom despite supposedly being worn at the time the blood came in contact and the presence of the chemical found in blood containment viles....?
Anyone?
Buller?
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:34 pm to brass2mouth
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jesus...i'm supposed to remember what I said on a particular day and time 10 years ago?
If you used the n-word so commonly that it was recorded over 40 times in a dozen hours, or well over three times an hour then yea, you know you used it.
And again, it didn't matter that he pled the fifth as to whether he said the n-word or if he testified truthfully the first time, the proof of those charges was already on the record; therefore, the only relevant question, which notably refused to answer, was "did you plant evidence in this case?"
Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:38 pm to More&Les
You need to go back and do your homework.
The detectives found solid, incriminating evidence everywhere. At the scene, in ojs car, his house...they never needed to plant anything. Ojs house and car were soaked with Nicoles blood. The CSIs came in and butt fricked the entire crime scene. They didnt where gloves, they moved shite. They even delivered ojs blood samples to Vanatter at the crime scene which is a huge no no. It was a total clown show. This was what really killed the prosecutions case.
Bailey knew Furman lied about saying that n word and everyone in LA knew he was being sent to the stand in cross with instructions to plead the 5th once the tape came out, and that's when they hit him with the planting of evidence question which was pure brilliance.
The detectives had oj dead to rights and the same evidence eventually hung him in the civil trial. It was the crime labs mistakes, mixed with a dog shite prosecution team, a mostly black jury, and trial theatrics that screwed the criminal trial for the prosecution.
The detectives found solid, incriminating evidence everywhere. At the scene, in ojs car, his house...they never needed to plant anything. Ojs house and car were soaked with Nicoles blood. The CSIs came in and butt fricked the entire crime scene. They didnt where gloves, they moved shite. They even delivered ojs blood samples to Vanatter at the crime scene which is a huge no no. It was a total clown show. This was what really killed the prosecutions case.
Bailey knew Furman lied about saying that n word and everyone in LA knew he was being sent to the stand in cross with instructions to plead the 5th once the tape came out, and that's when they hit him with the planting of evidence question which was pure brilliance.
The detectives had oj dead to rights and the same evidence eventually hung him in the civil trial. It was the crime labs mistakes, mixed with a dog shite prosecution team, a mostly black jury, and trial theatrics that screwed the criminal trial for the prosecution.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:43 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Vacherie Saint
All that to say you have no answer for the bloody sock either...
Posted on 2/26/17 at 11:49 pm to More&Les
You brought up the sock, dumbshit.
All I said was that the detective work was good. Kaelin heard someone back there where the glove was found before detectives ever arrived at ojs house. No one planted anything. Jesus, oj told his agent years later that he did it.
They had victims blood in ojs house and car
Ojs blood at the scene
Wound on oj consistent with crime scene blood
Glove are scene
Glove at house
Receipt where oj purchased the gloves
Ojs designer shoe prints in blood at the scene
Pics of oj wearing the shoes
911 tape of oj threatening to kill nicole
Pics of nicole beaten shite less by oj
8 or so prior domestic disturbance calls
Letters nicole wrote sharing her fears that he would kill her
He should have been screwed.
The trial was a disaster, but everything up until the CSIs arrived was fairly well handled.
All I said was that the detective work was good. Kaelin heard someone back there where the glove was found before detectives ever arrived at ojs house. No one planted anything. Jesus, oj told his agent years later that he did it.
They had victims blood in ojs house and car
Ojs blood at the scene
Wound on oj consistent with crime scene blood
Glove are scene
Glove at house
Receipt where oj purchased the gloves
Ojs designer shoe prints in blood at the scene
Pics of oj wearing the shoes
911 tape of oj threatening to kill nicole
Pics of nicole beaten shite less by oj
8 or so prior domestic disturbance calls
Letters nicole wrote sharing her fears that he would kill her
He should have been screwed.
The trial was a disaster, but everything up until the CSIs arrived was fairly well handled.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 2/27/17 at 6:11 am to Vacherie Saint
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You brought up the sock, dumb shite.
Yes, and still no answer...
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All I said was that the detective work was good
Yet you can't answer how a sock that showed up as an exhibit at trial and was alleged by LAPD to have been found lying in plain sight in OJ's master bedroom WAS NOT present in the undisturbed crime scene photos or collected from the original CSI team...?
Your list below is shite also, the picture of OJ wearing a BM shoe was published by NI years later, they had no proof OJ had such a shoe.
The Gloves actually didn't fit.
And yes, he should have been screwed along with the person belonging to the 4th set of DNA at the crime scene.
But your great detectives, including but not limited to the aforementioned racist pos, Mark fuhrman did a piss poor job and helped a piss poor Prosecution team hand the trial to the dirt bag dream team.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 6:12 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:06 am to More&Les
There was tons of real evidence against OJ, but for whatever reason someone tampered or planted additional evidence plus Fuhrman perjured himself and pleaded the 5th to planting evidence.
Whatever his reasoning for pleading the 5th doesn't negate that it actually happened on the record.
There was plenty of reasonable doubt for an acquittal. We all know OJ did it, but Fuhrman was the main reason he was acquitted and is the only one that went to prison.
Whatever his reasoning for pleading the 5th doesn't negate that it actually happened on the record.
There was plenty of reasonable doubt for an acquittal. We all know OJ did it, but Fuhrman was the main reason he was acquitted and is the only one that went to prison.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:07 am to _Hurricane_
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Yeah but they treat him as just a police contributer and never bring up any of his shady past.
Such as? Being accused of being a racist? Hell, everyone not a liberal toeing the company line is called a racist by you idiots.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:36 am to More&Les
I see this thread is still staggering on so I will make one more stab at your silly list of prosecutorial faults.
Because an object doesn't show up in one shot does not mean that object was not present. As I recall that shot, the bed was in the lower right corner of the photo. The sock could have easily been just out of sight behind the bed.
And the charge of the blood being present on "both top and bottom with same pattern" means to me that OJ used the sock to stop the bleeding by wrapping it around his finger to stem the flow of blood - or at least to keep it from dropping on the carpet.
That is a far more probable scenario than a bunch of detectives getting together to pour blood from a collected sample onto a 'sock that wasn't there.' The crime scene team was amateurish but nobody is that stupid. And it certainly would not have bee Fuhrman so that is irrelevant in your attack on him.
You are correct about the photo - that was not available at the time. However you are not correct about 'having such a shoe" - they had a receipt from when he bought the shoes, but could not "prove' he had ever actually worn them.
No - that is not proven. Anyone can struggle to make a glove not go on if they dont want it to. And - I watched that happen in real time - OJ was wearing latex gloves "to protect the evidence" and those latex gloves only came down halfway on his fingers. I was saying before he started that he will never get those gloves on over the latex gloves.
again - Fuhrman was/'is not a racist, any more than 99% of all people alive at the time. The definition of 'racist' is so watered down now that it has no meaning whatsoever to any thinking individual. So continuing to call him a racist just demeans whatever argument you may have. It shows as complete lack of objectivity on your part.
You can take pot shots about his not adequately parrying the unfair charges of 'racism' hurled at him during the trial - and a competent judge would not have allowed it. The trial was a complete farce - with the judge allowing overwhelming evidence of guilt to be shoved aside for the sake of the tired shibboleth to 'he racess."
BUT - Fuhrman was the most competent person on the investigation. Period. Without a doubt.
I still don't understand why this topic is being aired out again. It has been hashed over more than any other single event in my 78 years of life.
I watched the investigation reports and the trial - did you?? It was about all that was on TV in those days. OR are you just regurgitating the talking points you have read about???????
Now - unless something sane is posted in this thread I am out again.

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Yet you can't answer how a sock that showed up as an exhibit at trial and was alleged by LAPD to have been found lying in plain sight in OJ's master bedroom WAS NOT present in the undisturbed crime scene photos or collected from the original CSI team...?
Because an object doesn't show up in one shot does not mean that object was not present. As I recall that shot, the bed was in the lower right corner of the photo. The sock could have easily been just out of sight behind the bed.
And the charge of the blood being present on "both top and bottom with same pattern" means to me that OJ used the sock to stop the bleeding by wrapping it around his finger to stem the flow of blood - or at least to keep it from dropping on the carpet.
That is a far more probable scenario than a bunch of detectives getting together to pour blood from a collected sample onto a 'sock that wasn't there.' The crime scene team was amateurish but nobody is that stupid. And it certainly would not have bee Fuhrman so that is irrelevant in your attack on him.
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the picture of OJ wearing a BM shoe was published by NI years later, they had no proof OJ had such a shoe.
You are correct about the photo - that was not available at the time. However you are not correct about 'having such a shoe" - they had a receipt from when he bought the shoes, but could not "prove' he had ever actually worn them.
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The Gloves actually didn't fit.
No - that is not proven. Anyone can struggle to make a glove not go on if they dont want it to. And - I watched that happen in real time - OJ was wearing latex gloves "to protect the evidence" and those latex gloves only came down halfway on his fingers. I was saying before he started that he will never get those gloves on over the latex gloves.
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Mark fuhrman did a piss poor job and helped a piss poor Prosecution team hand the trial to the dirt bag dream team.
again - Fuhrman was/'is not a racist, any more than 99% of all people alive at the time. The definition of 'racist' is so watered down now that it has no meaning whatsoever to any thinking individual. So continuing to call him a racist just demeans whatever argument you may have. It shows as complete lack of objectivity on your part.
You can take pot shots about his not adequately parrying the unfair charges of 'racism' hurled at him during the trial - and a competent judge would not have allowed it. The trial was a complete farce - with the judge allowing overwhelming evidence of guilt to be shoved aside for the sake of the tired shibboleth to 'he racess."
BUT - Fuhrman was the most competent person on the investigation. Period. Without a doubt.
I still don't understand why this topic is being aired out again. It has been hashed over more than any other single event in my 78 years of life.
I watched the investigation reports and the trial - did you?? It was about all that was on TV in those days. OR are you just regurgitating the talking points you have read about???????
Now - unless something sane is posted in this thread I am out again.

This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 8:40 am
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