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re: Why do we have so many weirdo loser white incel young men?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:15 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:15 am to burger bearcat
A high percentage of young white males have basically been neutered by overbearing mothers, lack of a male role model,
too much soy, video games vs live action. Lots of white Beta bois for sure.
too much soy, video games vs live action. Lots of white Beta bois for sure.
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:19 am to loopback
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We started saving the weak, giving everyone a trophy and allowing the less that fit to thrive both mentally and physically.
This does not line up chronologically. When did we start allowing the “less than fit” to survive? And what do you mean by that? If “less than fit” means folks who literally can’t live without aid, then that small cohort can hardly be the reason for our troubles. And if it is a much larger group then we have been doing that for centuries, so it can hardly be blamed for the troubles that accelerated in the last couple of decades.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:22 am to BoudinChicot
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Idle hands
That’s a good point, too!
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:27 am to burger bearcat
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Why do we have so many weirdo loser white incel young men?
The Rule of Law, as we have it, produces weak people
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:29 am to burger bearcat
Vietnam allowed a draft exemption for those in school so the worst and weakest just stayed in school til it was over. They found a home among like minded and became teachers and professors, spreading their communist/liberal/anti traditionalist tripe. They were the minority but spread to an eager youth. They were the “cool” non traditional professors and teachers that had a multiplier effect and we are seeing them as a super majority in most levels of education today. The new fringe is far more extreme than the original and when you add in psychosomatic drugs at a young age the students become more pliable and less likely to cope. Throw in the violent subculture of the urban ghetto/drugs/gangs group and you get a fragile, malmble, violent, mentally unstable “counterculture” that isn’t able to function properly in society.
This is why private/homeschool/charter/magnet schools are slowly replacing the more traditional educational system. The next more will be to replace higher education institutions.
This is why private/homeschool/charter/magnet schools are slowly replacing the more traditional educational system. The next more will be to replace higher education institutions.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:38 am to Zarkinletch416
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Militant Feminism within the democrat party created the hook-up culture in place of the normal healthy girl-boy marriage ritual. The same ritual model that my generation followed. We met nice virtuous girls from great families. We fell in love, married, and had babies. We bought houses, refrigerators, automobiles, and televisions. We went to Church on Sundays. We supported our neighbors when tragedy stuck them. And we loved. Everything and everyone was in order. Somehow there was always a girl out there for that awkward incel young man. A girl he could build a family around and find his place in the community. The culture, including business was geared around creating jobs that supported families. Men with families and children always got first preference when it came to jobs. Companies recognized that men with families were good reliable workers. That model was mostly destroyed by the sexual revolution that begin in the sixties. It went downhill from there.
What a great analysis! What it really boils down to is that when we are given real freedom - not just under the law but freedom from social constraints, as well - we choose poorly and destroy ourselves.
In Allan Bloom’s The Closing of the American Mind, he has a passage in which he discusses this. He describes all of the great technological advances that have given the ordinary person free time, and great resources, such that he can do almost anything he chooses. And then he chooses to watch porn, listen to music that doesn’t even pretend to reach for ideals, and take drugs.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:40 am to burger bearcat
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But it seemed like this wasn't an issue before the 90's/00's, and I'm not talking about mass shootings. Sure, I realize there were nerds and geeks, but not so many of these nihilistic weirdos we see today.
Because there was a time when the public itself would put a boot in this kind of guy's arse daily while he was growing up - instead of being praised for being 'd'ifferent.
Sure, once in a while one of these jerks would reach maturity, but 99% of them would eventually become a non-lethal threat to polite society.
The 'stuffed in a locker' meme is the kind of cultural pressure I am talking about. Also, someone could get their asses seriously kicked by bystanders for way out-of-line behavior.
It is a CULTURAL rot we are experiencing - and this is part of the socialist agenda = destroy mutual respect and tolerance + plus promote anything that causes factional conflicts - concentrate on identifying multitudes of problems and rejecting all sane solutions..
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:43 am to blafayette
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Name one person who was in band that shot up a school or a parade
I think that was his point, that they had outlets back then.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:44 am to burger bearcat
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I wasn't alive in Norman Rockwell's America. But it seemed like this wasn't an issue before
They were there
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:44 am to burger bearcat
Because of insane leftists preaching to anyone that listens that they should’ve feel like victims of any and everything in the world.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 7:46 am
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:46 am to burger bearcat
We were a much better nation in John Wayne's America.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:47 am to burger bearcat
Note, that likely 90%+ of the "weirdos" are Leftists. The first qualifying criteria for a Democrat/Progressive is a fundamental belief that America and Constitutional Principle was immoral, from its founding. The second would be that Progs profess a form of outward love, but in their eyes (window to the heart/mind) they are cold as a witches' tit. There are a ton of both Conservative and Progressive folk who have 'real love' issues, as they were dumped in daycare as parents hustled off to being 'responsible' and affluent. Our Culture, is not one which promotes love and spirituality...but Worldly affluence. That is dirty secret and Achilles' hell of our Nation. Of course, a lot of spiritual people know this, and act accordingly.
Bottom line is that the weirdos and many Dems are psychotically delusional, self-deluded in most instances, as the are duped by Marxist indoctrination/propaganda. "Behold, I will send them great delusion that they will believe a lie".
"The Fourth Turning" and the "Second Coming". Nothing new under the sun. It'll be monumental after we get over this hump.
Bottom line is that the weirdos and many Dems are psychotically delusional, self-deluded in most instances, as the are duped by Marxist indoctrination/propaganda. "Behold, I will send them great delusion that they will believe a lie".
"The Fourth Turning" and the "Second Coming". Nothing new under the sun. It'll be monumental after we get over this hump.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:52 am to ChineseBandit58
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Because there was a time when the public itself would put a boot in this kind of guy's arse daily while he was growing up
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The 'stuffed in a locker' meme is the kind of cultural pressure I am talking about. Also, someone could get their asses seriously kicked by bystanders for way out-of-line behavior.
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It is a CULTURAL rot
This is HI-larious.
"A major sign of cultural rot that we don't use violence against kids who aren't threatening anyone and are just weird"
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
What is “just weird” at this point, though? This kid?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:58 am to tiggerthetooth
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All the 3 and 4 men used to be able to bag the 3 and 4 women, but that doesn't happen anymore because their perceived pool of choices (thanks to dating apps) is infinitely larger. The 3 and 4 women expect a 6 or 7 man and have decided in a lot of cases they'd rather either be a slump buster for a 6 or 7 and above or never settle at all. This creates this under class of men who have absolutely nothing to live/strive for in terms of the dating market.
Disclaimer: I am 59 and was off the market when I was 16 in 1979, so I have no current real experience.
I think this analysis has some merit, but I think the focus on looks is way off. What makes a man a 7 or 8 is having a good job and prospects.
I know men who are fairly ugly and clean house on women. One guy, in particular, is in his 50’s, has a very good job with very good earnings, and is unattractive physically. He cleans house. He told me he could have a beautiful 35 year old woman almost every day without hitting the same one twice.
This supports your POV that women are clustered around a few men, but the criteria is success not physical attractiveness.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:00 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What is “just weird” at this point, though? This kid?
These days I don't know. I don't hang around many yutes and I don't live in what would be described as a progressive area.
I don't think this kid, from what little we know, seems to be that weird. Soundcloud rapper who I'm sure was trying to cultivate a social media presence will seem like a weirdo to baws on this board.
This board often reminds me of the Wyoming liquor store scene from SLC Punk.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:01 am to Penrod
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I know men who are fairly ugly and clean house on women
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He told me he could have a beautiful 35 year old woman
Not what we're talking about in this thread
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:02 am to burger bearcat
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Why do we have so many weirdo loser white incel young men?
All consuming video games and internet.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:05 am to burger bearcat
China, the cabal, the filth, Hollywood and the media have made it a strong point to feminize men in America. It’s a great step to weaken national security.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 8:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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There is a population of man that has almost no chance of having women attracted to him. Liberals love to try to focus the entire discussion on just "expecting sex" but ignore the deeper issues (as you'd expect). Companionship, romantic love, all the things that are good about the dating/courting process, etc. are effectively denied to this population entirely.
I've been reading thru this thread and there is a lot of great discussion going on - I am in synch with almost all of it.
But this is the one aspect I would point to that is easiest to identify and a lynch-pin. I was born in the depths of the recession (1938) and my cohort was steeped in the reverence we had for women. And women were very selective in the men they choose to marry. Of course there were the "loose women" and the 'bad guys' - but society shunned them cubically even as some of us secretly wished to have a few of those 'experiences.'
BUT - most of my class married soon after high school graduation - we had kids early and worked our asses off our entire lives. Most of the survivors are still married to their high school sweetheart - (I am approaching our 65th wedding anniversary in a couple of weeks)
We rarely saw above a girl's ankles in everyday encounters. Guys went inside the girl's homes to meet their parents before going out on dates. Women were creatures to be adored and protected, rather than a commodity to be used and discarded like toilet paper. Nobody wanted to marry the "loose girls" - most of them moved on to other locations after high school and met a new set of acquaintances, and MOST of them went on to also lead what appeared to be productive lives, as normal people.
But the sexualization of the young was never accepted as the way things ought to be.
Almost every other discussion element in this thread is also valid - but the oversexualizatio that originated in the early 60s is a huge enabling factor.
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