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re: Why do so many people fall for the 2 party illusion

Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:25 am to
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:25 am to
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Anyone that doesn't think there's a uniparty is being very naive.


There is a uniparty and it is very strong and has been built for years and has created ways that make sure it is almost impossible to take the power away from them.

Hell if Rand were president right now he would be getting shut down in the same ways. Taking power away from the uniparty is a long game and anyone that thinks otherwise just doesn't have the stomach for it.

GN is from the generation of instant gratification and should understand this is going to take many elections and it still might not get accomplished.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74340 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:29 am to
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Bernie Sanders is probably the closest thing to a politician that actually cares about the average US Citizen. If only he wasn't a socialist.


Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:34 am to
There you go again, not adding anything. Just can't help yourself but to piss in the wind.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:36 am to
Of course people talk about it.

In my family
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:47 am to
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Republicans Democrats, all the same, no difference between the two
That's a not very veiled attempt to paint the repukes as being equally as evil as the Demoncrats. Pubs might be bad, but they don't support anything nearly as evil as slaughtering fetuses nor support anything as perverted as homosexuality. There is definitely a large chasm between the two parties.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:18 am to
It really is a Uni-party now.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:22 am to
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Bernie Sanders is probably the closest thing to a politician that actually cares about the average US Citizen. If only he wasn't a socialist.


He isn't a socialist. He is a welfare capitalist. Not the same thing. I know this is confusing because the welfare capitalist states of western Europe are called social democracies. Social democracy does not equal socialism as it lacks the central component, state ownership of the means of production.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:29 am to
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That's a not very veiled attempt to paint the repukes as being equally as evil as the Demoncrats. Pubs might be bad, but they don't support anything nearly as evil as slaughtering fetuses nor support anything as perverted as homosexuality. There is definitely a large chasm between the two parties.


That is all window dressing. If the GOP wanted to outlaw abortion they would have by now. Better to use such things to stir people up and divide us.
Posted by j bro12
LA
Member since Jan 2012
1550 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:36 am to
been saying this shite for years, it's all an act.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79334 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:37 am to
post-Seattle goldennugget sucks
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 am to
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state ownership of the means of production.


Difference between this and communism?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:41 am to
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post-Seattle goldennugget sucks
Peak GoldenNugget was when he was working at Cheddars in Iowa, and his coworkers were bullying him. I think that's around the time we got the infamous Kershaw thread.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:42 am to
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state ownership of the means of production.

Difference between this and communism?


Not much.

Think of the old USSR:

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.


Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30633 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:56 am to
Absolutely correct. The Cabal controls everything. We are at their whim. The 2 party system is being kept as an illusion to keep the American people armed against each other instead of armed against our true enemy
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:22 am to
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If Bernie was a good guy he would do everything in his power to clean up what his party has become.


Bernie isn't a member of the Dumocratic Party.

He is an Independent who just ran for the Dumocratic Party's candidate for POTUS.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43396 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:25 am to
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Absolutely correct. The (((Jewish)))Cabal controls everything. We are at their whim. The 2 party system is being kept as an illusion to keep the American people armed against each other instead of armed against our true enemy


Made it more appropriate for a GN thread.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41797 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:36 am to
The system is set up for two parties to run the country. A successful third party will need to pull equally from both R's and D's in order to stand a chance, otherwise all they will do is water down on party which will lead to persistent victories for the party that remains more or less unified.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 10:39 am to
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Republicans Democrats, all the same, no difference between the two

The fact the 2 party system is still going strong today shows just how brainwashed our citizens are.

Actually believing there is a difference between the two and that we have a choice.

Reality check: neither party cares about the people



To be honest I only came to this realization about 5 years ago.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:16 am to
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Difference between this and communism?


Socialism is a transition from capitalism to communism. Communism is a more refined endpoint of socialism. They both rely on government ownership of the means of production.

Welfare capitalism o relies on private ownership which is heavily taxed to provide for populace.
Posted by whoknows1390
nola
Member since Jul 2014
1672 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:59 am to
the only difference between them is what they do with your money once they take it.
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