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re: Why do Republicans and conservatives care about all the inner city black on black killings

Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:09 am to
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:09 am to
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How did it become clear to you that "black people" didn't care?



Here is one example:

They keep electing the same failed leaders for decades, despite no real improvements. If they cared, they would try something different.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:21 am to
I don't and neither does anyone else.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:35 am to
To be fair, ~42% of them (258,000) died defending slavery.

Just saying.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:37 am to
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They keep electing the same failed leaders for decades, despite no real improvements. If they cared, they would try something different.



That's an example of what you want them to do to you that they care based on what you think would create improvements. That would be considered ignorance, not a lack of caring.

So by just voting Republicans would show you they care?

What specific Republican policies would create improvements?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25119 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:38 am to
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They are thinning their numbers daily by killing each other and abortions


Bruh, no they arent. And that should tell you something.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:44 am to

Don't assume Republican policies.

Abolishing teacher's unions is a good 1st step.

Education is the biggest problem. But we are all preoccupied with one of the smallest ones (police killing). Teacher's unions are against competition like charter schools, voucher programs, school choice.

Start with that and then adjust the attitude for schools that teach trades and skills back to those being noble callings. Not everyone is destined for college.




Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:06 pm to
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Don't assume Republican policies.





quote:

Abolishing teacher's unions is a good 1st step.



I agree.

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Education is the biggest problem. But we are all preoccupied with one of the smallest ones (police killing). Teacher's unions are against competition like charter schools, voucher programs, school choice.



Who is the "we" you're referring to?


What makes you assume blacks are not focused on improving schools?

Police killings/brutality is small to you. I like how you used killings instead of brutality.

I'm for school choice and charter schools.

Most politicians don't want competition for their and their family/friends kids.

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Start with that and then adjust the attitude for schools that teach trades and skills back to those being noble callings. Not everyone is destined for college.



I agree.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:24 pm to
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Who is the "we" you're referring to?


The general culture of the nation as portrayed by popular media is the "we", of course it's not the real we.

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What makes you assume blacks are not focused on improving schools?


I think that many are, and this is great. But pop culture is squarely with BLM and BLM is pretty much discredited by focusing on one of the smallest problems for blacks (police), instead of the absolute, without a doubt, biggest problem (education). This is once again poor leadership.


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Most politicians don't want competition for their and their family/friends kids


and "most politicians" includes Republicans, which is why you shouldn't assume that they would as a whole would back what I think should be tried


quote:

Abolishing teacher's unions is a good 1st step.


I agree.



Then you are in good company.

quote:

Thomas Sowell
@ThomasSowell


As long as blacks vote automatically for Democrats, while the teachers' unions insist on getting their money's worth, it is all but inevitable that the education of black children will be sacrificed in the public schools, wherever Democrats are in control.


Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56911 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Why do Republicans and conservatives care about all the inner city black on black killings


Less people off the government teat = less taxes. More people that think for themselves rather than have a bunch of White Democrats in DC tell them they'll never succeed without them because of their skin color is a win for society.

Less Democrats = less taxes, less crime, less stupidity
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:36 pm to
The thugs and gangbangers, I really don't. They will get what they deserve, it's the innocent bystanders, the mothers crying over their childs lifeless body, those are the ones I care about. Most of those people don't want to live in those areas. Who wants to have to shield their kids from everything so that theu don't become desensitized to it and one day end up one of those people dead on the street? I have met some of the kindest, most salt of the Earth people in those areas and I feel bad for them. People growing up thinking that's what their future is destined to be. Imagine if we could stop the cycle for just a few years, how much of a difference that would make. I guess that's the white privelege everybody keeps talking about, but I still don't see it. The amount of kids in foster care in LP is astronomical, those areas just don't have murders every night.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47702 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:38 pm to
Hip hop culture is rotten to the core and needs to be exterminated. We don't need young black males growing up with fricking rappers as their idols, because they'll start taking their lyrics seriously. No one should aspire to be a gangbanger or have 8 kids with 7 different women. Black culture needs to completely reshuffle their priorities.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:19 pm to
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The general culture of the nation as portrayed by popular media is the "we", of course it's not the real we.



For a group of people that believe that the media is the enemy of the people, you let them influence your thinking about a lot of issues.

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I think that many are, and this is great. But pop culture is squarely with BLM and BLM is pretty much discredited by focusing on one of the smallest problems for blacks (police), instead of the absolute, without a doubt, biggest problem (education). This is once again poor leadership.



WOW... Be an adult and not be moved by "pop culture" The BLM Org's focus does not = the focus of Black people. That's their thing, there are MANY programs and organizations that are focused on education and economic empowerment in the Black community. You are focused on the BLM Org and what they are doing far more than Black people are.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:21 pm to
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Neither party gives a damn about black on black crimes.

I can't speak for parties.

But can say unequivocally that for nearly 30 years, I've been saying that the argument that me being conservative means I don't care about black people makes no sense.

Because from my foxhole, I think that if we could somehow even slightly mainstream black culture, it would result in a massive economic boom that was good for all of us
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:25 pm to
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WOW... Be an adult


That's twice now with the passive/aggressive ad hominem.

Are you trying to be a dick?

I don't sense that we are all that far apart. There is no need for that.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 1:44 pm to
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That's twice now with the passive/aggressive ad hominem.





quote:

Are you trying to be a dick?



See how quickly you got in your emotions about me saying be an adult. Yet you are perfectly fine implying Black people blindly follow the BLM Org. and whatever they are doing and saying is what Black people care about. Kine of like Blacks should be adults and think for themselves huh?

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I don't sense that we are all that far apart. There is no need for that.



Most Black people are truly conservative. There's always a need to challenge the mindset that the BLM Org actually thinks/speaks for the Black community.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:08 pm to


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Yet you are perfectly fine implying Black people blindly follow the BLM Org.


more like you inferred than I implied

But go on projecting out what you imagine I think, and then disagreeing with that which came from your own mind to begin with.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:55 pm to
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I think that many are, and this is great. But pop culture is squarely with BLM and BLM is pretty much discredited by focusing on one of the smallest problems for blacks (police), instead of the absolute, without a doubt, biggest problem (education). This is once again poor leadership.



We were talking about how to improve black communities and this was your reply. Care to explain how the BLM Org focus relates to the conversation we are having?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:56 pm to
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Neither party gives a damn about black on black crimes.


Less crime means more stability which means more jobs which means a healthier society, which leads to overall harmony, which renders race issues irrelevant.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10497 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:21 pm to
I'm a centrist and a realist. I want everyone to succeed.

Can never happen as long as black men grow up with no father and no one to idolize but lebrons and tupacs.

Stop killing each other and fix your situation.

The hypocrisy is both due to gun control and claiming BLM. Neither help the black community. They make it worse.

Hypocrites are my #1 peeve.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
19815 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:33 pm to
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You are focused on the BLM Org and what they are doing far more than Black people are.


If that’s true, those apathetic blacks are still part of the problem.
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