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Why do Louisiana conservatives like TOPS?

Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4785 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:41 pm
It’s literally socialized education and a ridiculous program with the requirements so weak.
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6567 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:44 pm to
You can be a conservative but not an ideologue. My kid got decent out of state scholarship offers, but he is going to LSU. One of his main motivations was TOPS. If you want to get rid of TOPS, fine. But announce now that you're doing it in 4 years. Don't pull the rug out from under people who have relied on the promise.
Posted by puse01
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:45 pm to
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Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:46 pm to
Why is a capitalist system of education better than a taxpayer funded/socialized one?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112390 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:46 pm to
I've always advocated that if TOPS is gonna happen then the requirements should be higher. I think 26 ACT should be the minimum.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24236 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:46 pm to
You’re an idiot if that’s how you view TOPS.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67615 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:47 pm to
It's like a tax rebate.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48290 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:48 pm to
I'd rather invest money in the bright youth of our state than give it away to society's underclass.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26612 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:50 pm to
If you are against Tops, then you must be against public education in general.

State colleges are already heavily subsidized by the state. Tops just funds the last portion.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 12:56 pm to
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I've always advocated that if TOPS is gonna happen then the requirements should be higher. I think 26 ACT should be the minimum.


I agree with this. It would also cut the costs of the program by more than half and greatly decrease the dropout rate.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:00 pm to
Because a large part of them have the better kids in schools and like having tops to help w college.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:04 pm to
I hate TOPS because it's abused by people who have no intention of keeping that taxpayer funded college education in the state of Louisiana to contribute to the betterment of Louisiana.

They get TOPS, graduate college with a marketable degree and then leave the state.

frick paying to educate another state's workforce.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56189 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

It’s literally socialized education
quote:

ridiculous program with the requirements so weak
its a decent program, but requirements should be alter to insure investment dollars are recouped.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I'd rather invest money in the bright youth of our state than give it away to society's underclass.



A lot of those bright youth have no intention of returning that investment to the State of Louisiana and its people.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48005 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:10 pm to
I am not a fan. However, if you're going to offer welfare, better to offer it to help people become independent.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48290 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Not enough of those bright youth have no intention of returning that investment to the State of Louisiana and its people.



That isn't the fault of the TOPS program. Your rightful disappointment is misapplied.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

My kid got decent out of state scholarship offers, but he is going to LSU. One of his main motivations was TOPS.


Is he going to return that investment to Louisiana or just move out of state after he graduates?
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I'd rather invest money in the bright youth of our state than give it away to society's underclass.


The youth that leave then immediately flee your state and run to Texas, California, etc?

New York is doing a stupid program like TOPS, but at least NY requires you to stay and work in NY for 4 years or pay it back.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26415 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:34 pm to
Why would anyone pass on scholarship money..?

Side note: Do you want your social security?
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7095 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 1:36 pm to
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But announce now that you're doing it in 4 years. Don't pull the rug out from under people who have relied on the promise.


...and you better drastically increase merit scholarships in that time or LSU might as well be SLU.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 1:37 pm
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