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re: Why do folks try so hard to distinguish between homosexuality and pedophilia?

Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:36 am to
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You shouldn’t paint with such broad stokes.



Understood; I’m just a student of human nature and proclivities as I try to get my own house in order
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:39 am to
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I have read and said some stupid sheet in my life. This tops it all. You are a full on idiot. Just one example title: h and p are indistinguishable. First paragraph: h are much more likely to be p’s. Idiocy on its face. There is really way too much dunbassery here to further discuss. Enjoy your deviance this rainy Sunday.
You attend a non-denominational, rock n' roll church don't you?

I don't quite understand the avoidance of spelling out homosexuality and pedophllia, but OK. Also if you're avoiding using profanity, why not just structure your sentences to avoid use altogether or simply use a different word that's acceptable to you? The English language is chock full of fine words that can covey anger, dismay, incredulity, you name it.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3374 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:44 am to
Both make me want to throw up in my mouth
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Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15841 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:45 am to
Because they're two different things. Idiot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259940 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:48 am to
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Because they're two different things. Idiot.


Not necessarily, in fact there's some crossover.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:51 am to
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Most convicted pedophiles don’t identify as gay.


So a man that diddles a young boy has to say he is gay....to be gay?

Self identification doesn't mean jack.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:57 am to
Because there's a difference between the two.

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Is that line of reasoning wrong?


Yes.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8367 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:57 am to
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Homosexuality is now both acceptable and approved of by most of the world.


Gaslit perception. NOT truth. By a wide margin.

Ignore all MSM-Goob-Punditry "opinions" and fake "polling" that attempt to create a bogus consensus.

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Pedophilia is on its way to such support.


True. But again...

This perverse crusade is in the process of creating perception of support -- like Tranny and LBQt "support."

The reinforcement of a bogus pedo-support consensus will as usual be supported (and coerced) by MSM-Corp-Goob-Academics who are steered by the same Luciferian Controllers who run the WEF and UN.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50241 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:02 am to
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You fricking liar.


You vote for people who openly support grooming, and chastise anyone who opposes your ideology on this board daily.

If I mixed you up with someone else that openly made the statement that "if you don't like groomers, it is because you don't like gays", then my apologies. I won't apologize for saying you vote for the policies that support grooming.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:03 am to
They are both disorders, abnormal.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 10:30 am
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:09 am to
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There is also hebephilia or ephebophilia which involves an adult's sexual attraction to young people post puberty (12-16 y.o.).

But we have to remember, a girl in this range is by nature ready to start procreating. So a man Biblically marrying a girl after puberty is not a sin in the eyes of God.

A man having sexual relations with a girl earlier than her body being ready by puberty is a sin, as that's her innocence stage.

No matter the ages a male and female having sex outside of Biblical marriage is a sin.

Male/male sexual interactions no matter the age is all a sin, and has no avenue for not being a sin.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:11 am to
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Why do folks try so hard to distinguish between homosexuality and pedophilia?
For the same reason they distinguish between Priests and Pedophiles.

Heterosexual Pedophiles outnumber Homosexual Pedophiles by about 10-to-1.

If 3% of the population is gay, the relative risk of pedophilia would be slightly higher amongst gays than among straights. If the percentage of gays in the population is >3%, that relative risk would decline. Either way, it would constitute exception rather than rule.

But this new public blending of grooming and gay would REALLY piss me off if I were a gay adult.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18588 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:12 am to
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If homosexuality is a disorder, then it follows that homos are MUCH more likely to be pedos.


I suggest you look at the medical classification of homosexual tendencies before 1970 or so (I forget exactly when it was reclassified).

Go back before the gay “lobby” got strong enough to get normalized.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1240 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:15 am to
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You can see those who rebel against God seeking to destroy what He has created good so that they can prop up their own autonomy. Marriage is being redefined and minimized. Sexual desires and actions of all stripes are legitimized and promoted. Even children are devalued.


God creates things/processes which are balanced and self-replicating.

Marriage between a male and female is the perfect example. It is a commitment between a man and woman that compliment, support, and love one another in an unselfish way. They then replicate and produce children who they also support and love and the process repeats itself naturally. When sin enters the equation and man tries to modify the process, all hell breaks loose (literally). Same-sex relationships do not equate to marriage, period. Forcing that idea down the throats of God-fearing people is just the beginning of an unnatural process which dooms us all.

Satan's way is to increment sin in small ways to bring about the erosion which leads to total destruction. We are well on our way. In fact, it is at our doorstep. I don't know what is holding God back, other than an incredible love for His creation.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51488 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:23 am to
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The real question is, is homosexuality a deviancy or perhaps a kinder word: a disorder. If it isn’t, then the folks adamant about keeping the two groups separate are correct. If homosexuality is a disorder, then it follows that homos are MUCH more likely to be pedos.

Once the line of what is truly natural is crossed, its much more easy to delve further, it’s just human nature.


This touches on something I posted yesterday. Homosexuality generally breaks down into two forms: those who were born attracted to their own sex and those who generally came to it secondarily (those in prison who are otherwise hetero having sexual relations with other inmates because they have no access to relations with the opposite sex, for example). By focusing on it as being nothing more than deviancy, those born gay end up hiding it by attempting to assimilate to heterosexuality which then brought many of them to the point of reproducing. That homosexuality can be seen in family lines makes me think there is a genetic component (although there may be an abuse component as well). If true, going at homosexuality as a reviled mental issue has the long-term impact of making the problem worse by increasing the homosexuality left alone is a genetic dead end.

The problem is that many of the homosexual groups have allowed themselves to be associated with trannies and pedos because they over-empathize with being ostracized by society due to their divergence from the social and/or sexual norm. Many non-gays associate gays with trannies and pedos because so many gays and gay groups have accepted those groups (LGBTQANUSblahblahblah), thus the blame for confusion largely falls on the homosexual community itself. There are those who abhor those behaviors and associations, but they are too few and/or too silent about it.

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53810 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:34 am to
I think homosexuality is a birth defect. A genetic error either masculinities a female brain or feminizes a male brain.

Transgender is a mental disorder like schizophrenia.

Messing with kids is probably some combination of both of the above mixed with evil!
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12105 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:43 am to
You are an ignorant mother fricker. Straight white men do the most diddling of both male and female children, and it's not even close. What is wrong with you people. Can you not even research before you write.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7249 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:43 am to
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Why do folks try so hard to distinguish between homosexuality and pedophilia?


Simple answer: Because you can't get people to swallow this crap in a single bite. It has to be cut up into more palatable pieces and then seasoned well in order to cover up the rotten taste.

Once you get them to swallow the first bite, it's easier to get them to swallow the second and to finish the meal.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112417 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:49 am to
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But we have to remember, a girl in this range is by nature ready to start procreating. So a man Biblically marrying a girl after puberty is not a sin in the eyes of God.


It's not just biblical. Just 100 years ago it was very common for girls in Appalachia to get married at 15. In the 1970s I was spending the summer working on a farm in rural Tenn. I met a young couple who had property nearby. Great kids. The husband was 18 and his wife was 16. She just had their first baby and they were poor but very happy and not on welfare. He worked hard on his crops. She cooked, cleaned, took care of the baby and she actually made all their clothes from fabric instead of buying clothes.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37247 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:44 am to
The OP isn't saying that Homosexuality and Pedophilia are the same thing - but that they are both "abnormal" or disordered, thus are more related to each other BECAUSE they are disordered action - rather than heterosexuality which is ordered. To be fair - sleeping around before marriage, even heterosexually, is ALSO disordered. At least - that would be a clear Christian belief.

Or better said - God created an order to the world that we are supposed to align to - that's the point of literally everything. The more we align with God's will - the more we are ordered. The more we don't - the more we aren't. (There's a slippery slope conversation in here).

And you can go down this path - EVEN with a non-Christian view. Even that the human soul - if it isn't divine - might require some sense of order, etc. That's a longer thread.

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This touches on something I posted yesterday. Homosexuality generally breaks down into two forms: those who were born attracted to their own sex and those who generally came to it secondarily (those in prison who are otherwise hetero having sexual relations with other inmates because they have no access to relations with the opposite sex, for example). By focusing on it as being nothing more than deviancy, those born gay end up hiding it by attempting to assimilate to heterosexuality which then brought many of them to the point of reproducing. That homosexuality can be seen in family lines makes me think there is a genetic component (although there may be an abuse component as well). If true, going at homosexuality as a reviled mental issue has the long-term impact of making the problem worse by increasing the homosexuality left alone is a genetic dead end.


This hits on two other problems though. 1) The assumption that we are born perfect (without disordered thoughts). The fact is, we aren't. Just because we have disordered thoughts - doesn't mean we can take action on them. We all have our proclivities, and we are supposed to work away from them. We aren't "created" straight and "created homosexual." We are all created to be ordered within the world and to have whatever "problems" or "disorders" (not mental disorders) that we have to fight, work against, come to understand.

Of course the compassionate view of homosexuality, even with large swaths of the church, is to let them be and let them act. But that's incorrect.

Second, because of the above - this goes right into the "do what feels good," type of thinking. If it feels good, we should allow it. And I hope most can see where that gets us....


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The problem is that many of the homosexual groups have allowed themselves to be associated with trannies and pedos because they over-empathize with being ostracized by society due to their divergence from the social and/or sexual norm. Many non-gays associate gays with trannies and pedos because so many gays and gay groups have accepted those groups (LGBTQANUSblahblahblah), thus the blame for confusion largely falls on the homosexual community itself. There are those who abhor those behaviors and associations, but they are too few and/or too silent about it.


Great point, but why do you think that's the case? Because disorder finds itself in other disorders? Because "victimhood," which is NOT understanding what suffering actually, perpetuates itself, thereby perpetuates disorder? Or because the power of those things being related, driven by whatever forces are out there, creates the slippery slope in and of itself?

Regarding the slippery slope, I hope at least Christians see what that really is.... it's an easing of order itself. It is precisely the descent into chaos. More Christian-as-therapy types may not want to admit that, but it is true.
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