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Why did we drift away from the 1990s paradigm of shrinking budget deficits?

Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:36 am
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:36 am


Admittedly, 2001 had a few things that combined for a budget crisis (recession, tax cuts, and a war), so I’m not quite shocked that 2002 and 2003 were deficit years.

But why did we decide to make budget deficits a permanent thing again instead of correcting the situation? I think part of the problem was getting stuck in the quagmire of Iraq for 10 years. Any other thoughts?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:36 am to
Yeah we tossed that out the window.

We now spend about $1.2 trillion on the war on poverty/political hand outs. Even more on our military. And these programs never really get smaller.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 7:38 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89760 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:37 am to
Climate change
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13749 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:37 am to
The voters do not care enough to make it a priority.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8350 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:38 am to
Because War
Posted by martiansgohome
Ankara
Member since Feb 2004
4682 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:39 am to
We didn’t adjust after the .com bubble?
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:39 am to
Ask republicans
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12440 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:39 am to
Looks like it shrunk pretty good from 2010 to 2016. Then the debt king was elected.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:42 am to
Yeah, there are downward slopes at various points (2005-2007) and (2012-2016), but then it starts going back up before it get anywhere near zero.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9140 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:44 am to
This is unfortunately the simple, correct answer.


Too many voters today care more about themselves than about their children. The populace (in aggregate) is willing to sacrifice long run economic growth in favor of short run marginal gains. Simple as that.
Posted by Doublebagger
Member since Mar 2021
980 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:45 am to
The Neo Con Republicans - Specifically Cheny & Bush.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95628 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:46 am to
The late 1990s had the dot.com bubble burst and 2008/2009 (when things were trending better again), you had the double hit of the TARP bailouts and the election of an utterly irresponsible, fiscally, group that has not yielded significant ground, yet.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42268 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:54 am to
This, the 90’s rode the dot.Com bubble and the late 2000’s had the full impact of the mid-late 90’s Clinton era housing regulations.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:56 am to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:56 am to
It's both parties. When you're at the top of the food chain you don't have to pay your debts
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:58 am to
Because we believe we can control the business cycle and avoid real corrections. We cannot. We’ve muted some bad corrections via debt spending, but the options are running out and what we’ve created will be much worse than if we’d just dealt with the original correction. Notice the build up around the Iraq War is much much smaller than the financial crisis and since.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:59 am to
quote:

It's both parties. When you're at the top of the food chain you don't have to pay your debts


It’s both parties having monopolies on both house of Congress and the White House.

In the 1990s, you had a White House and Congress that conflicted and resulted in gridlock.

Then in 2001, you had a GOP controlled government, in 2008 you had a Democratic-controlled government, and in 2017, you had a GOP controlled government again.

All 3 of those years correspond to inflection points where the deficit starts growing again.
Posted by HorseShoeHenry
Member since Jul 2021
307 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:28 am to
Corruption.

GOP had started fixing the issues, then the Democrats let them in on the cash game.

You can't get filthy rich on $174k/yr living in one of the most expensive cities without corruption.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:29 am to
Inflation hit vote buying
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Looks like it shrunk pretty good from 2010 to 2016. Then the debt king was elected.
Pretty obvious, but this board will completely ignore it. Also will ignore how the other deficit bumps occurred during global market meltdowns yet Trump's deficits occurred when he was handed an amazing economy.
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