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Why did we drift away from the 1990s paradigm of shrinking budget deficits?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:36 am
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:36 am
Admittedly, 2001 had a few things that combined for a budget crisis (recession, tax cuts, and a war), so I’m not quite shocked that 2002 and 2003 were deficit years.
But why did we decide to make budget deficits a permanent thing again instead of correcting the situation? I think part of the problem was getting stuck in the quagmire of Iraq for 10 years. Any other thoughts?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:36 am to UndercoverBryologist
Yeah we tossed that out the window.
We now spend about $1.2 trillion on the war on poverty/political hand outs. Even more on our military. And these programs never really get smaller.
We now spend about $1.2 trillion on the war on poverty/political hand outs. Even more on our military. And these programs never really get smaller.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 7:38 am
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:37 am to UndercoverBryologist
The voters do not care enough to make it a priority.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:39 am to UndercoverBryologist
We didn’t adjust after the .com bubble?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:39 am to UndercoverBryologist
Ask republicans
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:39 am to UndercoverBryologist
Looks like it shrunk pretty good from 2010 to 2016. Then the debt king was elected.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:42 am to Gravitiger
Yeah, there are downward slopes at various points (2005-2007) and (2012-2016), but then it starts going back up before it get anywhere near zero.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:44 am to chryso
This is unfortunately the simple, correct answer.
Too many voters today care more about themselves than about their children. The populace (in aggregate) is willing to sacrifice long run economic growth in favor of short run marginal gains. Simple as that.
Too many voters today care more about themselves than about their children. The populace (in aggregate) is willing to sacrifice long run economic growth in favor of short run marginal gains. Simple as that.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:45 am to UndercoverBryologist
The Neo Con Republicans - Specifically Cheny & Bush.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:46 am to UndercoverBryologist
The late 1990s had the dot.com bubble burst and 2008/2009 (when things were trending better again), you had the double hit of the TARP bailouts and the election of an utterly irresponsible, fiscally, group that has not yielded significant ground, yet.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:54 am to Ace Midnight
This, the 90’s rode the dot.Com bubble and the late 2000’s had the full impact of the mid-late 90’s Clinton era housing regulations.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:56 am to Abstract Queso Dip
It's both parties. When you're at the top of the food chain you don't have to pay your debts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:58 am to UndercoverBryologist
Because we believe we can control the business cycle and avoid real corrections. We cannot. We’ve muted some bad corrections via debt spending, but the options are running out and what we’ve created will be much worse than if we’d just dealt with the original correction. Notice the build up around the Iraq War is much much smaller than the financial crisis and since.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:59 am to jmarto1
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It's both parties. When you're at the top of the food chain you don't have to pay your debts
It’s both parties having monopolies on both house of Congress and the White House.
In the 1990s, you had a White House and Congress that conflicted and resulted in gridlock.
Then in 2001, you had a GOP controlled government, in 2008 you had a Democratic-controlled government, and in 2017, you had a GOP controlled government again.
All 3 of those years correspond to inflection points where the deficit starts growing again.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:28 am to UndercoverBryologist
Corruption.
GOP had started fixing the issues, then the Democrats let them in on the cash game.
You can't get filthy rich on $174k/yr living in one of the most expensive cities without corruption.
GOP had started fixing the issues, then the Democrats let them in on the cash game.
You can't get filthy rich on $174k/yr living in one of the most expensive cities without corruption.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:29 am to UndercoverBryologist
Inflation hit vote buying
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:30 am to Gravitiger
quote:Pretty obvious, but this board will completely ignore it. Also will ignore how the other deficit bumps occurred during global market meltdowns yet Trump's deficits occurred when he was handed an amazing economy.
Looks like it shrunk pretty good from 2010 to 2016. Then the debt king was elected.
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